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I've had a great time here. The people on the various communities I've joined are very nice and actually constructive! I haven't encountered any rude or sarcastic responses or one word answers.

I've had really cool conversations and I haven't been told anything toxic or given any anatomically impossible suggestions at all! I really see a difference between here and Reddit.

What particularly amazed me is the lack of knock down dragouts on the Politics and News communities on Lemmy.

People bring up their points of view even if they have contrasting arguments siting historical precedents to support their side of the discussion.

I'm excited to see your experience as well?

I'm really glad to be a part of Lemm.ee and thank you very much /u/sunaurus for making this instance! :D

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think Lemmy definitely has potential, but I feel like the biggest obstacle for mass adopters will be the sign up process. I personally felt a bit of choice overload when picking which instance to sign up on, especially considering how many of them are the exact same. Now that I'm in, though, I definitely feel more at home than I do with Mastodon and Kbin. I'm excited to see where this goes

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I agree, I think a "fuck it, pick one for me" button would be great for newcomers. Just gotta make sure the randomized list only contains vetted / reliable instances that wont go dark after 2 days of experimenting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Agreed! I wish an app could've just forced me to join a general instance.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The only downside is how small the communities are in comparison to their subreddit counterparts. I'm afraid that Reddit might be able to keep coasting on numbers alone for long enough to recover and ultimately overshadow this service... But it's a great alternative, and I for one will not be leaving even if they reverse their API decisions.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They won't recover, because Reddit is going to get only worse. There was an NBCnews interview with Huffman, where he more or less let it slip that the next big step is trying to monetize subreddits. People will eventually migrate to the fediverse because Reddit is going to gut very core of what makes Reddit Reddit. Of course Reddit won't magically disappear but it will slowly drift towards irrelevancy as it transforms into something else.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It could be argued that some of the best content creators of Reddit have left, or are considering leaving out of disgust due to disrespect from the admins. If Reddit alternatives prove to have quality over quantity, Reddit might continue hemorraging users, and the ones that stay will be folks that appreciate dopamine-heavy content from TikTok.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Of course Reddit will cost for a while. But they're not going to recover because they have nothing better to offer than what they just took away.

And after Twitter self-destructed last year, people aren't going to jump into Reddit if they aren't there already.

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[–] nieceandtows 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've seen the term rexxitors used (like brexit), and I really like that.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yup, migrating from Reddit here. Biggest problem for me is finding a good instance. First one I tried was not in my region, poor connectivity. Then I started trying ones in my region (USA) after looking at the list sortable by country here; https://the-federation.info/platform/73

Next one I tried was beehaw.org. That one turned out to be heavily defederated which means it blocks a lot of outside instances. That's really bad. I can block any instance I want in my profile so why do I need someone else to tell me what I can and cannot access.

I did pretty well with lemmy.one, performance was good, but was not particularly impressed by the administration, some disabled features and a few blocked instances. Now I'm trying lemm.ee and we'll see how that goes, so far so good.

The next big hurdle is finding communities. There's no sort or filter function when you list them all in a search. So it can be hard to zero in on what you're looking for. There are some 3rd party sites like lemmyverse.net to help in the search for communities, but it would be a lot better if that was not necessary.

You can tell Lemmy is immature in terms of development, rough around the edges. It lacks quality of life features and has some glaring bugs. Still its not anything that makes it unusable, but the user experience could be better at this point. I'm sure it will get there as the software matures.

The huge thing that makes Lemmy superior (and the Fediverse in general) is that it's community driven by FOSS making it free of corporate influence. That's just a huge advantage, can't overstate that too much. Inevitably what happens with corporate driven communities is they prioritize monetization over community interests. That happened with Reddit in a big way as evidenced by the recent strike.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What app are you guys using on Android? Jerboa?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am; Jerboa seems to work okay.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, jerboa gets better with every update, but it feels kind of janky overall.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've always primarily lurked on reddit. I don't usually say anything unless I have something to add and by the time a post makes it to the front page who is going to see it anyway? So I'm trying to participate more which is new for me. Besides that I've had a little trouble with jerboa but I'm chocking that up to growing pains. But so far so good and I'm looking forward to watching lemmy and lemm.ee grow and thrive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same here, mostly lurked and looked for any interesting topics. Every now and again would catch a debate gone sour and would read it out of curiosity. Never really cared to accumulate karma, didn't care. Joined reddit years ago when it was simpler and I enjoyed it more. Now its more, karma focused and seeking approval from the mods/masses. I'm glad I left, happy here now.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like I'm in/on a space ship an communicating with other ships in the fleet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a cool way to look at it! "Sssk this is the SS Lemm.ee hailing the SS Behaw over, over."

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It seems a lot quieter. But in a nice way. Like, city centre shopping vs village store.

People seem a bit nicer.

And, there's a greater sense of optimism here. About everything.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really does have the same feel as the Digg exodus, I'm enjoying the camaraderie with the other Reddit refugees.

The software is a little rough around the edges still, but I'm having a whale of a time here. Honestly it's pretty exciting thinking about what this could be if enough communities grow here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The software is definitely going to get better over time as it is developed more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Oh for sure. I actually kind of love that it’s so minimal right now, sure there’s a bunch of stuff missing but what’s there today works well and represents a great platform to build on.

If it was more polished but had more stuff that doesn’t fit my tastes then I’d be less excited (tbh that’s kinda how I feel about kbin)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to say, I absolutely love it! Their isn't as much engagement or users to produce content, which can be a bit hard for more niche subjects. But that is okay, and I am very confident that over time those needs will fill in the fediverse.

Learning the technology behind federated social media has been extremely exciting! I really do think that this is the future of the space, and learning it has been like learning Linux or Python for the first time. I guess I am lucky that I have a bit more of a background in computers, so I get to be a bit more patient than most people when it comes to learning how the instances talk to each other, but I really believe that with the right user interface, everyday people will get the hang of it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

So one thing this experience has made me realize is that reddit didn't always keep me up on what I could consider interesting news.

I have an RSS feed setup of about 55 feeds. I would keep scrolling on reddit because I'd want to keep trying to find those interesting articles in a haystack but I think I may have reached overstauration on subreddits that I'd have to scroll through a lot of junk.

With rss feeds set to update once a day, once I reach the end of my feeds I now feel more comfortable saying I'm done wasting time for the day trying to keep up with the feeds.

It does mean though that I have to find other ways to waste those 5 to 15 mins of down time waiting on an elevator or waiting on a coffee if I've read through the news of the day. I've returned to wordle and now the mini crossword from NYTimes.

If nothing else, this has made me realize I don't need to keep endlessly scrolling to pass the time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's going to take a while re-building a list of communities, and getting familiar with the new UI (I'm using Jerboa on Android). But otherwise, same vibes as when moving from twitter to mastodon, it feels good to rely on decentralized networks where we aren't the product.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

What I'm missing at the moment is the ability to build "MultiReddits," i.e. specific groupings of communities for when I want to browse by theme. For example, back on Reddit, my "Sports" M-R included the subs: NBA, MMA and general sports.

Right now on Lemmy, it looks like one can browse communities by either: Subscribed, Local, and All, but nothing else. Am I missing something, tho?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Love it! It's like food truck version of reddit. The apps are now right next to each other on my phone

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm missing my niche subreddits because the only thing I used Reddit for much anymore were r/synthesizers and r/printsf, and there aren't very many people talking about synthesizers and science fiction lit just yet. I started the former anyway!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm having a great time. It feels a lot cozier than Reddit, and like I'm talking to actual people who I occasionally manage to recognize when I see them later (like you OP, for example). I've posted more within a few days here than I did in years of being on Reddit. Which isn't saying much, but it's something.

It's also been a great opportunity to jump into the Fediverse and get more comfortable with it. It's an exciting time!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm still browsing and learning how lemmy works. So far I'm quite happy. Reminds me of the old days lol But just figuring out how to find interests and such when I have a min, reading things that interest me. The breath of fresh air from Reddit has been amazing honestly. Didn't realize how toxic it was until I came here

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The first few days was the refugee camp outside Reddit City, where we were all scrambling between our tents and looking for places that would take us. Now those camps are flourishing and buildings are popping up, while new citizens are joining every day!

This is all giving me strong Digg vs. Reddit comic vibes and I love it!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I made a reddit account over a decade ago, it was by far my favorite social media platform, and pretty much every single change since then has made it slightly worse. I've been looking forward to this exodus for a while.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm loving my experience here, it really feels like I'm a part of something special that's happening.

I've not found anyone to be unhelpful, it's a really great community & I'm so greatful to be a part of it!

Thanks to everyone for making this place amazing!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm glad you're having a good time! This place does feel different doesn't it? In a good way.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So far so good. Only thing missing are niche interests. I'm doing my part by creating 2 communities for my interests that I can play the long game and simply submit daily content. Thinking marathon rather than sprint.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Perhaps there should be a community called "gamingonlinuxwhilesnortingalineofcocaineoffofthetoiletseatatatacobellbathroomhandicapstall".

Making the most niche community out there.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I was pretty new to Reddit, only about 14mo on (mostly because I got sick of husbo sending me reddit links that I finally caved and downloaded Sync). I found some great subs that introduced me to great things.

I'm excited for Lemm.ee and figuring all this out. I'm hopeful to see some of the same type of content I looked forward to from reddit.

Here's to the future 🥂

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I'm super excited, the Fediverse feels right. Like this is what the internet is supposed to be like.

It's still a bit rough around the edges, and sometimes comments just don't get posted on desktop, and I get a "deleted" popoup on Jerboa for no reason.

But I sure won't leave here anymore, regardless of how the whole reddit kerfuffle goes down. There's so much potential and freedom.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just joined, and I'm curious to see how it compares. I'm still trying to figure out how to add the equivalent of subrexxits (communities?) to my stream here. Wondering if there seems to be a void, should I just create one, add some stuff, and wait for those that are more knowledgeable/active to come and play? Kind of an "if you build it they will come" kind of thing?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was shocked that you could talk openly about Piracy and other naughty things. Jerboa has been a bit hit or miss and I am still at a loss on how to join another server's community from thier New Community announcement thread.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm liking the experience here so far. It's quieter and niche subs aren't populated yet, which is to be expected.

The main problem to me is that it's harder to find subs across instances.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm feeling really good about the Fedivere.

I started out being "social" on the Internet with IRC in 1994 and it was so exciting to have people in my computer to talk to; it felt so cutting edge and so much cooler than chat rooms on AOL and such.

Then I moved into StumbleUpon, which was my first link aggregation type of site. Not much social about it but it let you pick categories and you could submit links to it. I found tons of awesome and weird stuff on it, it was like discovering a "find cool shit" button on my browser; I'd click that button for hours, for better or worse. I don't know how popular SU was but it felt so innovative to me; I was so sad it was gone one day or at least just a shell of it's former self.

Digg came next, and I had no idea what it was but once I got into it it was amazing; new interesting/funny stuff and a community that comments on it, everyone was hilarious and clever. We all know where that went.

Then it was Reddit, it felt like such a breath of fresh air after digg. It has all the edge of old digg and hilarious commentary that I liked from digg, without since of the stifling ideas that digg had. I have a fond memory of holding back laughter while sitting in a waiting room every week; of course there was no Reddit app back then so I used Reddit is Fun. And I never stopped until last week.

Fedivere has that vibe for me again. I loved the insane amount of content and communities that Reddit has with it's 13+ years of history and Internet culture. But it's just time to move on. Fedivere will probably have hiccups and might even fail to get a meaningful grip but this is such an interesting take on the social link aggregation site and I'm really excited to see where it goes! Thanks to all the hard work being done behind the scenes!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm enjoying the lemmy communities set up by some of my subscribed reddit subs. I'm okay with the potentially offensive communities and happy to block the communities that have content I don't want to consume.
I'm a little confused still, about the "federated" thing and accessing certain communities on other servers and now have accounts on 3 federated servers because I cannot otherwise access some of the communities from the other servers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If the fediverse gets too fragmented, I fear for what will happen to the servers that inevitaby close down due to lack of funds/users. All posts will be deleted? User accounts too?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jerboa being the only app has been a bit derpy. I hope that once Reddit goes all Lion King on 3rd party apps that they'll focus on Lemmy and we'll have more options. Other than that, it's been great.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How the hell do you sub to places on other fediverses? It says to paste [email protected] into whatever in lemm.ee, no results

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If the community name [email protected] is already known, I'd just append the name to https://lemm.ee/c/, so the final URL will be https://lemm.ee/c/[email protected] . I guess someone already made browser script for the purpose.

Also, Lemmy Explorer works well - see this comment. Note that the current instance (lemm.ee) can be set via the HOME button on the upper-right corner.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Lemmy itself seems fine reading wise. The main issues I have with it are that the communities are spread to thin with everyone making their own niche communities that have little to no activity and thousands of 0 comment posts. Wouldnt be that bad except the sort options for lemmy seem to not work that great and I dont want to spend the time curating from an every changing list of communities just to propagate my feed... because at this point it seems like a waste with servers federating and unfederating. The 3 main servers I tried sofar have been unfederated from the largest gaming community of lemmy which makes them almost useless to me.

Lemmy still needs a lot of work to be a good replacement for reddit. Better sorting options would go a long way and maybe allowing each server to have a "home page" that lists their own curated and popular communities as a home page.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I usually just lurk, but it still feels different here. As other people point out, it's similar to the internet's old days, and although I never got to experience that, I think I feel the same way. It's more free, less crowdy and noisy. I still find myself needing Reddit though because of the more niche communities and content.

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