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[–] LordWiggle 132 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Plus, they still have slavery! In the constitution it says slavery is not allowed, "except when incarcerated". There are states where incarcerated people, convicted by a corrupt justiciary system, are forced to work without pay.

Plus, they just elected an autocratic hate and fear spreading idiot who is a puppet of Putin and does everything in his power to make the US an even worse oligarchy.

The world isn't just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

[–] Deway 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The world isn't just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

To be fair some are looking for ideas, the Americans are not the only ones with issues.

[–] LordWiggle 9 points 1 week ago

But they are one of the most influential in the world, and THE most influential ally we have.

[–] K1nsey6 11 points 1 week ago

We have slavery in our everyday lives without being incarcerated, we are debt slaves, we are wage slaves without freedom of movement.

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[–] Diplomjodler3 102 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The American people voted a traitor into power that actively works for a hostile foreign power to destroy their country. And yet they can themselves patriots. Pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, I didn't vote for that bag of shit

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

Not enough people voted, period.

[–] K1nsey6 22 points 1 week ago

That traitor is capitalism. And until people stop supporting that trader it will only further degrade

[–] Furbag 65 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It took centuries for the Roman Republic to fall. At some point in time, they were past the point of no return without themselves even realizing it.

I think we are in that position now. We have been on the decline for more than a decade now, and have had several opportunities to correct or reverse course, but the wrong decision is made at every opportunity because it's far easier for powerful influential people to increase their power, wealth and status at the expense of everyone else and suffer no consequences for doing so than it is for them to sacrifice their own power, wealth, and status for the benefit of the collective. Are we past the point of no return? I'd say an argument could be made for either yes or no, but we are undeniably closer to the precipice than we have ever been as a nation since the Civil War (which never truly ended).

[–] NikkiDimes 23 points 1 week ago

The US has been on the decline since the 80s. It's been propped up on a strong economy and tech domination, but it's losing its lead, and late stage capitalism is rotting it from the inside out. Reagan really got this crazy train going

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

This sums up how it feels to me as well. To me it was pretty much the eighties with deregulation and lowering taxes and globalization.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Nah we're at the part when Rome when from Republic to dictatorship

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's not just the US, but they are the fastest on this path

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

From where I sit on Canada’s western end, I honestly expect America to never have a legitimate/meaningful election again.

As in, over the next 4 years the GOP will erode the election system such that it becomes equally as meaningful as elections in Russia or North Korea - theatre and a thin veneer of legitimacy, but nothing more. That the GOP will work things such that they will never “lose” another election, making America a permanent one-party state, no matter how many people would want them out of power.

The scary thing is, Canada risks much the same if “PeePee” (Pierre Poilievre, of the Canadian Conservative Party) gets elected. The man is a snake-oil salesman who is always eager to tell you what the problem is and who is to blame, but who almost never had any solution for the problem. Even his “axe the tax” shtick is a “solution” in desperate need of a problem to solve, will hurt working-class Canadians far more than it will help them, and is only meant to reduce taxation on the wealthy.

[–] Alenalda 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was decided in 2010 with "citizens united"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was decided in 2000 with "Bush v. Gore"

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[–] DarkFuture 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Been an American in America for 4 decades. From my perspective American decline is undeniable. It is simple fact.

Largely because we can't connect the dots and accept that we should be focusing on the class war, not the culture war, because that's the root of the problem. A lot of the hate and ignorance in America comes from desperation. We're desperate because we aren't losing, we've lost, a class war.

In my opinion the election that just happened was the nail in the coffin. We came together and the majority of us decided to let our oligarchs assume total control. It was a signal to them that they're good to be open about it now, too.

RIP to the middle class.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well said. We have indeed lost. Perhaps we can wipe the slate clean and start anew. I fear even if we did that though, there's enough of the population that would prefer the old way that something better could never come to fruition.

[–] DarkFuture 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perhaps we can wipe the slate clean and start anew.

History indicates that to do so will require a lot of time, violence, and death. And without a plan in place for what comes afterwards, we'd just end up with another shitty system.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago

Don't worry, it's obvious from the inside too.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

To be fair a casual understanding of history shows they're practicing Christianity as it always has been

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

The average life of an Empire is about 250 years. It's just about time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Man, let me tell you about what's coming to Canada, you won't believe it!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I love that Gladiator, the 2000 film, showed us Commodus a rich emperor who was insanely obsessed with getting everyone's attention and the US has Elon Musk showing everyone that he wants to be at least knows as the best digital gladiator of video games while we have Nero/Trump watching the city burn.

It is like we are working on The Decline of an Empire: Greatest Hits! double gate fold album for 2025.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (11 children)

A fall from greatness is inevitable and I'm afraid that the fall of America, with all of her hubris, is going to be spectacularly bloody and unpleasant for everyone. :(

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They say Rome wasn’t built in a day. But also overlook that the Roman empire didn’t fall in a day either. It was a very gradual process.

So the real question is, if the US were to fall, would it be a quick or gradual process?

[–] Goodmorningsunshine 19 points 1 week ago

It already fell, so I guess the real question is how long it takes for people to realize it.

The three branches of government are wholly owned by the triad of evangelicals, Moscow, and a billionaire, they don't have any intention of following the law or constitution, and won't give up power. America is dead.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

Gradual and ongoing since at least 1980.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well, hopefully you can avoid Poilievre. Otherwise, you might be joining us on the crazy train.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 9 points 1 week ago

Anything for profit.

[–] jewbacca117 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

you accepting refugees yet?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 11 points 1 week ago

Accepting? They gave Yaroslav Hunka a standing ovation in parliament.

Canada loves refugees of the correct political persuasion.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

It’s not like there would be any housing available for us if they did

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