I love the lengths that people will go to explain stuff that is well known to historians to be regular human behavior by speculating about extremely unlikely world changing events.
this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2025
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The Internet in Ancient Times
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Welcome to the stone age... or the bronze age... or the iron age... heck, anything with an 'age' is welcome, except our modern age or any ages to come.
This is about what the internet was like thousands of years ago back when it all started. Like when Darius the Great hired mercenaries via Craigslist or when Egypt invented emojis.
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1 - Be civil. No name calling, no fighting, keep your flint hand axes inside your leather pouches at all times.
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5 - No lemmy.world TOS violations will be tolerated. So there.
6 - There is no ~~rule~~ law 6.
Laws of justice which Hammurabi, the wise king, established. A righteous law, and pious statute did he teach the land. Hammurabi, the protecting king am I. I have not withdrawn myself from the men, whom Bel gave to me, the rule over whom Marduk gave to me, I was not negligent, but I made them a peaceful abiding-place. I expounded all great difficulties, I made the light shine upon them. With the mighty weapons which Zamama and Ishtar entrusted to me, with the keen vision with which Ea endowed me, with the wisdom that Marduk gave me, I have uprooted the enemy above and below (in north and south), subdued the earth, brought prosperity to the land, guaranteed security to the inhabitants in their homes; a disturber was not permitted. The great gods have called me, I am the salvation-bearing shepherd, whose staff is straight, the good shadow that is spread over my city; on my breast I cherish the inhabitants of the land of Sumer and Akkad; in my shelter I have let them repose in peace; in my deep wisdom have I enclosed them. That the strong might not injure the weak, in order to protect the widows and orphans, I have in Babylon the city where Anu and Bel raise high their head, in E-Sagil, the Temple, whose foundations stand firm as heaven and earth, in order to bespeak justice in the land, to settle all disputes, and heal all injuries, set up these my precious words, written upon my memorial stone, before the image of me, as king of righteousness.
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…but… the aliens… (｡╯︵╰｡)
If you call them out they'll call you closed-minded.
Hmm... Cairo is an underwater tomb city. Nice.
I don't get it. Can someone explain?
The missing stones you see in the picture at the bottom half of the pyramids, called casing stones, are believed to have been taken and reused as building materials. But the person in the picture is claiming they wasted away due to some previous sea level rise in the area.
And let's be clear, by sea level rise, they are talking about the Biblical flood of Noah.
So much erosion for
-checks notes-
40 days...
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Why do people believe these stories?
Indoctrination from as early as they could think.
They have to believe forces like erosion and tectonic mountains happen quickly to pack Earth's history into 7,000 years. Not joking. At all.
What's really funny is that no one believed the Earth was that young until recently. It's like The Rapture™ and cherubic angels, totally made up, non-Biblical, hasn't been around for even 200 years. We're talking about people who get Milton's Paradise Lost and Dante's Inferno mixed into their "ancient" belief structures.
Milton's Paradise Lost
Was Milton the one who made the shitty movie adaptation, the shitty tv show remake, or the shitty tv show?
Aw, I kind of liked the 90s one...
I liked all of them! But I'm also currently watching the 2016 Suicide Squad on purpose. It's nice to enjoy something terrible where no one gets hurt.
How do they reconcile the stories of Moses in Egyptian captivity, presumably part of those building said pyramids, when Noah and the Flood would have been long before any of that?
Have to make your lore consistent if you want people to get sucked into that fantasy.
To be fair, ancient Egypt lasted a long time. When the Persian empire conquered the 30th dynasty of pharaohs, the last native one, Rome had barely expanded beyond its city. When that happened, the pyramids were as old to those last pharaohs as the pharaohs are to us now. So there is quite a lot of time to say "Egyptians built pyramids, flood happened, Moses and co wind up in captivity some time afterwards"
Of course, while that's technically internally consistent, it's still very silly to say that the pyramids got worn down by biblical flood erosion
For what it’s worth: if it was sea water, the damage would have been different, salt water is rather destructive. Also on the inside parts that would have been submerged . Plus, there would have been remnants of seaweed, shells etc.
Fun fact aside: The early Egyptians must have had a much greener and humid climate than we generally think, so OOP was onto something…. and then did a rabbit hole deep dive. Oh well.
They're correct in that the Nile floods every year. They're totally wrong in that the pyramids are on a plateau and it doesn't affect them.
I stood on the edge of one of those rabbit holes once. My dad gave me a book called The Sirius Mystery, and it starts out sounding well grounded, but the correlations made start getting wider and wider until...yes, aliens.
To this day I still feel he may have had some valid points at the beginning on the geology, and the Egyptian historian club is very defensive of questioning their conclusions. The truth could be somewhere between the two with people there longer than we thought, building things in a wetter environment...without aliens.
And as a side note, it always pisses me off when people attribute early man's achievements to having an outside assistance. People were smart back then, they just didn't know all we know. Don't take away what THEY did just because we have some image of modern man being a genius above older generations. We're standing on the shoulders of giants, and some of those giants started out with nothing and figured basic shit out themselves.
And as a side note, it always pisses me off when people attribute early man's achievements to having an outside assistance.
This isn't a perfect indicator, but it's damn close:
With the lone exception, god knows why, being Stonehenge. Somehow that's the one thing white people could not achieve by themselves.
That original post feels like it's written by an LLM.
When unicorns missed Noah's Ark !
Historical proofs /s :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unicorn_(song)
I remembet reading something about how The Pyramids used to be white, but Europeans stole the stones they were covered with so now they're that color. Take this with a grain of salt tho, I'm not sure if it's actually true.
Europeans did not steal them, locals did and re-used them. But yes, they used to be cladded with brilliant white limestone with a gold cap at the top.
They would have looked similar to this:
After the sun itself, it would be the brightest thing any Egyptian would be likely to see. Which was sort of the point. You can sort of think of it as the path the Pharaoh would take to the sun.
Damn, it looks so smooth.