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European jitters about Trump 2.0 not shared by much of world, poll finds (www.theguardian.com)

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A 24-country poll by the European Council on Foreign Relations shows European allies overwhelmingly oppose Donald Trump’s return to the White House, citing concerns for global peace.

Conversely, countries like India, China, Russia, and Brazil largely welcome a Trump 2.0 presidency, with many seeing him as committed to ending wars in Ukraine and the Middle East.

The survey reflects shifting global power dynamics, a weakening "Western alliance," and growing influence of transactional politics.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Authoritarian countries don't seem to mind Trump's impending presidency. Why is Europe overreacting?" Fuck off, Guardian.

[+] [email protected] -22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Brazil is not an authoritarian country.

Also Europe and the US consistently deluding themselves into being some pinnacle of ethics and civilization, while the rest of the world wants us to stop meddle in their affairs and bomb them to shreds if they dont comply, is a major reason why we got other countries to be happy about Trump.

Why would they care if the bombs killing them are made and sold under a Dem or Rep, a Green, Liberal, Social Dem or Conservative? Why would someone in South America, Africa or Asia who has been at the short end of US meddling, overthrowing democratically elected governments, propping up tyrants and fueling wars and civil wars care about another war somewhere in Europe?

The russian invasion of Ukraine is nothing different to the American invasion of Iraq, the US backed Iraqi invasion of Iran, the Vietnam invasion and countless others. The Democrats in the US and governments like in the UK, Germany, France, the Netherlands and other Israeli allies have made it clear that they are in support of heinous war crimes, possibly genocide as well as illegal occupation, annexation and recently the invasion of Syria.

If we start to get off our high horse, we might actually get to be taken seriously again and we might be able to maintain and reestablish diplomatic ties and influence we are losing because of our arrogance and hipocricsy.

[–] Famko 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The russian invasion of Ukraine is nothing different to the American invasion of Iraq, the US backed Iraqi invasion of Iran, the Vietnam invasion and countless others.

Ok, so just because America invaded Iraq means it cant send weapons to Ukraine to protect itself against Russia? Or that Russia is justified in some way in invading Ukraine because America meddled in other countries?

we might actually get to be taken seriously again and we might be able to maintain and reestablish diplomatic ties and influence we are losing because of our arrogance and hipocricsy.

I'd argue that the USA was establishing better foreign relations when Democrats were in charge than when Republicans are. Trying to take over territories from countries such as Panama or Denmark is, in fact, very arrogant and self centered. We don't need or want even more belligerent countries in the world if we want to achieve some semblence of peace in the world.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, so just because America invaded Iraq means it cant send weapons to Ukraine to protect itself against Russia? Or that Russia is justified in some way in invading Ukraine because America meddled in other countries?

Nowhere did i say that. But once again it shows how skewed the western perspective is. The west demands other nations not to care if they illegally invade other countries. It uses its (remaining) economic and soft power to threaten anyone who demands an end to western crimes. The US just showed this again with the house deciding to sanction the ICC for enforcing international law against Israel. And that one got strong bipartisan support.

So people that have been trained by the west not to care about wars in the world don't care about this one either. In their perspective it is just another war. And the sooner it ends, the sooner trade relationships can be back to normal, irrespective of who wins.

I’d argue that the USA was establishing better foreign relations when Democrats were in charge than when Republicans are. Trying to take over territories from countries such as Panama or Denmark is, in fact, very arrogant and self centered. We don’t need or want even more belligerent countries in the world if we want to achieve some semblence of peace in the world.

I mostly agree. I see two reasons, why people prefer Trump. The first is that the hypocrisy is less. Trump acknowledges that the US is only in it for their own interests instead of peddling all these lies about "Democracy" or "Liberty". The second reason is that Trump sees everything as a deal to be made. So if you know what Trump wants, you can make a deal. Compare that with Biden who whined about Netanyahu making him his little bitch but continued to support Israel with all means possible, because he is ideologically committed to Israeli and US imperialism.

So the Dems overall had made more diplomatic relationships, but less honest ones. With Trump it is fewer relationships but there is less pretense around them.

[–] non_burglar 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're lost in the semantics. Outcomes like fewer deaths resulting from foreign policy decisions, including belligerent invasions, matter more than perceived political "moral" calculus.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which fewer deaths are you talking about? The millions murdered in Vietnam? The millions muredered in Iraq and Iran? Or the hundreds of thousands murdered by US installed fascist dictatorships in Central and South America?

[–] non_burglar 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please draw from the context of this thread that I mean future deaths.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

Looking at the past there is no reason to believe, that the D or R letter of the current US administration will make a substabtial difference for the safety of lives of people outside the US.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

of course BRICS members would be welcoming POTUS47... he'll ruin whatever is left of US for them

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago

Some countries benefit from a weakened United State. Others benefit from a strengthened. You can guess which ones.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This idea that Trump will end wars is laughable. He does whatever makes him money.

[–] Lightsong 6 points 2 weeks ago

He might end one and start several more.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

By “ending wars in Ukraine and the Middle East” they mean “finish the job”.

[–] febra 8 points 2 weeks ago

Because most of the world already knows the US as an aggressive imperialist hegemony. Why would that change under Trump?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Well, of course. The US is extra shit to the rest of the world, so at the very least, someone else will be getting the attention. Probably even better, though; they'll have an easier time tricking the incoming administration of dinguses into being nice.

[–] Dr_Fetus_Jackson 3 points 2 weeks ago

No shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Everybody's used to 200 years of this batshit racist empire.

[–] werefreeatlast -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He is old and stupid. What are the chances that he gets covid and he chokes on a large peanut?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does Jimmy Carter's ghost have some unfinished business?

[–] werefreeatlast 1 points 2 weeks ago

That would be interesting. A ghost peanut!

We're pretty sure it was a peanut, but it was never found.... Some say he chewed it anyway. Some think we didn't see it because it was orange. Yet others assure us that it was just Elon's cum, I mean gum. But important researchers agree on one thing. But they don't agree on this one...it was a ghost peanut that saved the USA. Not just any peanut, a Carter peanut.