They really think AI chips are a breakthrough. It's Fking FPGAs, empty lookup tables, they don't know what to put in there, and we train ML on GPUs... Also China knows how to make those, they also can do their own CPUs and GPUs, they don't need US for that.
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As with crypto, dedicated hardware should be able to do better than GPUs, if the model is pinned down.
The main thing they can't do is 4nm fab. That's what the US is trying to prevent.
If you think they don't know how you're delusional. First research is globally shared and second, China has always found ways to get information they need from companies, either because they just give it to them or because US accept people that will give information back to China.
Everybody knows how to produce the chips. The problem is getting your hands on new ASML machines without the USA finding out.
Exactly. It takes tens of thousands of discrete pieces of technology from hundreds of companies in 30+ countries to put a fab together. If you are missing a piece, no fab for you. So yes, if you can manage to block some part of that chain, you can effectively block that fab from being built.
That argument makes more sense, but manufacturing is their strength. How many parts of ASML are actually done outside Asia? I don't know honestly but as we manufacture most electronics and tools there, the only option to hide technology from China for US is working exclusively with Taiwan (Korea and Japan maybe but expensive) to make those.
That's why Chinas manufacturing is being targeted too. Otherwise they will inevitably develop the process for bleeding edge in house chip fabrication. Technology is only a matter of time. The US is trying to stall any way they can.
A lot. Some of the most important ones are Netherlands and UK. They come from all over Europe, Asia, and North America.
"We believe in free market capitalism so much, except the free market part."
I'll never understand American politicians. Sure blah blah blah the Chinese are the devil, but its not like this actually stops anyone from selling to them. Nvidia will just make a quadro D and sell that instead.
Not only that, but the so called "free market" capitalistic ideals that both establishment Republicans & Democrats defend on behalf of their corporate overlords, has made it so other countries are now surpassing us in almost every way. Rather than adapt, the US is like naw we'll just buy everyone off or kill them.
That's because the US is a corporate dictatorship masquerading as a "democracy".
I don't know how China can hope to match the US in global power and influence if they don't have access to the most generic anime softcore porn you've ever seen
"Unlike Communist China, the US believes in free market capitalism and that the market will regulate itself, the US would especially never threaten other governments to tow the party line unlike those communists."
Everybody already has access to ELIZA-level tech.