this post was submitted on 11 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Even though that piece of information can be verified by other credible sources (like NBC News). This is a news post they personally didn't like.

This is not the first time this particular mod, who has self-proclaimed to "hate biggotry" but seems to be more about "love censorship", has done something similar.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They seems bothered by the source of the article, not the content. I know you reposted it from NBC and that's still up, from which site did you post the article when it was taken down?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I didn't post the original, but it seemed fine to me:

that’s still up

That remains to be seen, I've posted it after I posted the info here, so only a few minutes.


I had nothing to do with the original post, except that I added some comments on the post and saw the same mod show their disagreements by continuing the discussion in a modlog note thus making it impossible for me to reply.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Never heard of ndtv.

You did kinda go off on an anti religious rant in the comments which is kinda weird, but I don't think it's power tripping as long as the NBC article stays up.

[–] givesomefucks 10 points 5 days ago

NDTV is rightwing Indian propaganda, which is why the people mad it's not accepted as a legitimate source also repeat the anti Muslim propaganda.

Overall, we rate New Delhi Television Limited (NDTV) Right-Center Biased and questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, poor sourcing techniques, a lack of transparency and several failed fact checks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ndtv/

It's like trump supporters and Faux News in America.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't seem weird to me. It's a law allowing pedophilia in a country run by people who belong to a religion that was founded by a pedophile.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

now do the Christianity please...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Their anti-abortion policies are just so that the women they rape can't "kill" their kids. They wouldn't have to worry about that if they just stuck to altar boys.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

thank you daddy!

just preempting "iTs RayCISm" crowd...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Neither did I. The removal was kinda obviously in response to the comments by me which the mod already deleted and then they had to have their final say in the modlog reason for removal. But well, if you don't see it as power tripping, nothing I can do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm missing something, but why not just directly post the NBC article rather than the NDTV?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, I didn't post the original article.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Ah, that's what I missed!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

YDI.

any frequent poster to news communities knows they all have very specific rules for sources and credibility. this is an absolutely normal practice.

Even though that piece of information can be verified by other credible sources (like NBC News)

Then they should post the NBC News article. They weren’t banned I presume? They have every opportunity to learn and try again.

This is a news post they personally didn’t like.

At this time you have provided no evidence of this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks! Didn't know about those.

Edit: Seems I knew about [email protected] as I'm already subscribed but that community is empty. So probably some federation issues, or is it really empty?

Edit 2: Nevermind, I always forget I can check the community at its origin server.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thanks! Didn’t know about those.

They come up more and more as it seems like every few days there's a thread about LW World News

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

It's the benefit of being able to have a central comm where people can post about these mod actions.

We need to create a scoreboard with which comms have been most accused of having PTB and what percentage of those accusations have been verified by the community votes. And then provide potential alternatives to each, so that you don't have to be in every comment section linking people :D

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I like that!

I'm lazy and just trawl through c/all most days, but it would be very nice to see the most pernicious PTB miscreants and maybe avoid the subs they mod.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Yes, I was thinking about the scoreboard too 😅

[–] givesomefucks 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is a news post they personally didn’t like.

Well, it's NDTV...

Overall, we rate New Delhi Television Limited (NDTV) Right-Center Biased and questionable due to the promotion of propaganda, poor sourcing techniques, a lack of transparency and several failed fact checks.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ndtv/

You're mad they don't want propaganda?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Nah, I'm mad that:

Even though that piece of information can be verified by other credible sources

And only after the mod found some comments in the thread that they didn't like.

[–] rockSlayer 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Even if it can be verified elsewhere, promoting specifically an unreliable right-wing site should be removed.

[–] givesomefucks 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Do you not understand how reporting on a real thing can be propaganda?

Because that's super important to understand in 2025...

only after the mod found some comments in the thread that they didn’t like.

Way more likely it just took a while to be reported and a mod to act on it, so you'd need some proof to back up accusations like that.

But the first bit is a lot more important.

Like, that's basic media literacy, it's important people understand that even though a headline is factual, it can still be propaganda

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And removing thoughts you don't like is still censorship. And creating echo chambers. Which this particular mod is doing a lot, though I won't go as far as expose which mod it was because I'm not gonna abuse that I'm and admin (of different instance) and thus their choice of hiding mod names in modlog does not affect me.

[–] givesomefucks 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

And removing thoughts you don’t like is still censorship

What you were complaining about was the removal of an article from a known propaganda source for a far right government....

And you're acting like it's a free speech issue.

Like, if they were removing "thoughts" why are they leaving an article about it up that's not propaganda?

Did you switch and know you're complaining why your bigoted comments were removed?

Because that's the same thing, if your "thought" are hate speech, it's going to be removed on most civil spaces.

Go to Facebook or Twitter if you want to be bigoted with no moderation.

Quick edit:

I’m and admin (of different instance)

An incredibly small one that uses a knockoff name similar to Lemmy.world with less than 50 users a day and goes weeks without a post...

If you're saying your tiny corner of the fediverse is fine with propaganda and religious bigotry I'll just block all that shit now so I don't stumble in it later.

The only reason it's still federated is likely it's so small no one at lemmy.world has noticed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I wonder if ~~it was the same mod who decided to remove my Kim Jong-un Bans Hotdogs post~~ (just checked on mbin, it wasn't). In that case it wasn't "low credibility score" but just "rule 3". I was able to get it restored by contacting a mod who was active and who was surprisingly chill about it, but if it's getting removed because they don't like it, they already achieved their goal by removing it's visibility while it was getting traction. At least you got it back up in a new thread.

Incidentally, how do you know who did it? Activity? Setting up your own custom instance to bypass the censorship? There may be a bad actor, although in their defense, there is plenty of brigading regarding certain articles trying to get mods to succumb with whatever mud sticks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm an admin of my instance, I can see the names in my modlog. Or I could see them in the database directly.

I don't think they're a bad actor, they're just so anti-bad-stuff they accidentally went a little to the bad-stuff territory themselves. Kind of like a clueless tankie.

Edit: If you send me the post link, I can try checking if it's the same mod.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I just saw that the names show up on mbin, another thing it does right. After checking, I see that it isn't the same mod account. Thanks for the offer though.

[–] givesomefucks 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's literally built into Lemmy...

When you look at the mod log there's a text field to enter the name of the mod, then it'll just show actions by that mod.

In most subs that's five guesses tops.

Anyone can do it, there's a reason it's there by default

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In a not so recent changed they removed the ability for everybody to see it and limited it to the ~~masterrace~~ instance admins. But this only applies to lemmy. I should have made the move to mbin a long time ago.

[–] givesomefucks 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Nope, still right there next to "filter by user" it's "filter by mod".

Has been there for years and never left.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You are looking at it from lemmy.world, which uses a different older version than the ones the devs are pushing out. Check out lemmy.ml and lemm.ee

[–] givesomefucks 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why would I do that if it doesn't work?

Like, lots of reasons not to go lemmy.ml, but we're explicitly talking about stuff that happened on world...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

It matters because most instance download the dev's version, not just stick to older versions, carefully analyzing them and patching what they see fit.