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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The EU has a harder defense Clause than the NATO. The Member States must do everything possible to Support the attacked state

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Greenland isn't part of the EU though.

[–] br3d 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think Greenland is part of Denmark, which is a member state

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't Denmark responsible for Greenlandic defense and foreign policy, though?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Something like that yes, but I doubt this extends to Greenland being included in other EU defense treaties.

[–] CAVOK 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The mood seems to have shifted though. About 60% would vote to join the EU today.

Edit: The poll can be downloaded here. https://www.kas.de/en/web/nordische/single-title/-/content/the-second-foreign-and-security-policy-opinion-poll-in-greenland

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It'd be even more if we ever got around to reforming the Common Fisheries Policy to make sense. Same goes for Iceland and the Faroer.

[–] CAVOK 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not really familiar with the CFP on that level. In what way doesn't it make sense?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

If Austria wants to fish in Danish waters, they can do so, freely. If Denmark wants to fell Austrian trees or mine Austrian mountains, they can't.

Then, aside from that, the quotas are insane: We're constantly scraping the bottom of the barrel, barely preventing fish from dying out. Allowing stocks to recover even a bit would allow us to pull more out of the waters while simultaneously having the stocks recover even more and increase quotas again until fish again are the abundant resource they once were before literal centuries of overfishing. Would take a couple of years, maybe a handful, of reduced quotas to a complete moratorium, depending on area and species. It's a thing we can absolutely afford to do: Some reduction in consumption, some increase in imports, some money spent on mothballing ships and people's jobs for a while, gigantic payoff.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

That doesn't mean that they're not Danish territory, and Denmark is a member state, and the defence clause gets activated when the territory of a member state is under attack.

Differently put: The only reason that Argentinia didn't find itself at war with the whole of the EU was because the defence clause wasn't yet law during the Falklands war. NATO's clause only applies on the northern hemisphere if I'm recalling it right, there's definitely a geographical limit.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 27 points 3 weeks ago

Not a war hawk at all and definitely putting America first. /s

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

I thought the era of relative peace within the West would last longer. Renaissance of gunboat diplomacy and proper colonial wars weren't on my bingo card for this decade.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Why are we giving this guy any more serious news coverage? Coverage of this guy needs to come primarily from The Daily Show and The Beaverton.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

TBH: We kind of know that Trump has dementia. He is babbling incoherent stuff since years and the media should stop repeating everything

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

They should get VP Vance to countersign millitary commands to make sure that is their actual political will and not just Trump's dementia.

[–] EuroNutellaMan 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And people called him a pacifist, lol

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s based on the track record of actual actions because Trump has little self-control when speaking. 4 years of Trump was less bloody in terms of US interventionism than under Biden and that’s a fact. I wouldn’t use it as a predictor of future behaviour though because the man is a whacko and it’s hard to tell how much influence military industrial complex will have over him this time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not laughing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's almost refreshing when they give the actual reasoning for a dumbass war that will benefit no one - Cause I wanna - Instead of inventing WMDs and "spreading the seeds of democracy"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Not a news.