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The tech entrepreneur and close adviser to Donald Trump Elon Musk has taken a stunning new public step in his support for the far-right German political party Alternative for Germany (AfD), publishing a supportive guest opinion piece for the country’s Welt am Sonntag newspaper that has prompted the commentary editor to resign in protest.

The commentary piece in German was launched online on Saturday ahead of being published on Sunday in the flagship paper of the Axel Springer media group, which also owns the US politics news site Politico.

Musk uses populist and personal language to try to deny AfD’s extremist bent and the piece expands on his post on the social media platform X that he owns, on which he last week claimed that “only the AfD can save Germany”.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It seems bizarre to me that the prevailing assumption is that Musk's interests align with those of the working class.

As in, why TF would anyone who is not a billionaire want a billionaire to restructure government?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

His blunder in Sweden should tell everyone clearly where he stands on workers rights.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don’t think people care. I don’t get why people keep going against their own interests, and it’s the only thing I can think of, or they think the rich deserve their wealth.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

People in Sweden definitely care. Multiple industries striked against tesla.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

they still are. it's been 14 months now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Good. Solidarity with them.

I should have clarified I’m speaking mostly of the U.K. and and USA.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

In Australia there's a phrase "temporarily embarrassed millionaires".

We have a two party system, one more progressive and one more conservative.

My parents are retired. They're not wealthy and are living a meager existence on a government pension. They will always vote conservative, despite their best bet at better public services and social security on offer from the progressive party.

The reason is, they feel like they ought to be wealthy or at least they want to act like they're wealthy. They feel as though they are more closely aligned with the views of wealthy people than they are with the views of poor people. They feel as though they belong to a class of wealthy people, it's just that through a cruel twist of fate they don't have any money.

There's also the moral / ethical perspective that is ultimately meaningless but resonates with a lot of voters. For example, banning naughty books from schools. Obviously kids will access much naughtier content in other ways, but "protecting the kids from gays" is very communicable to low information voters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

The AfD does not have interests in favour of the working class. They constantly vote against laws helping anyone but the rich. They are just a tool for the rich and russia to destabilize our democracy.

[–] nifty 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You know, if people like Musk hate immigration so much then they should encourage investment and peace in other countries so that people don’t want to leave their home countries.

No one really wants to go to Europe etc., they’re either literally dying in poverty or being killed in their own countries.

Let’s be honest, the poor state of countries where these immigrants are coming from is the fault of decades of neoconservative policies of regional destabilization. The West needs to answers for its short-sighted thinking now, and they’re having a hard time understanding how this is a self created problem.

[–] Gammelfisch 6 points 6 days ago

Indeed. Imagine if Mexico was governed like Canada. The Mexicans would be building a wall to prevent the Americans from swamping their country.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Damn, gotta wonder what Putin has on Elon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

I think putin just showed him that he can do what happened in Russia in 1990 and 2000 and get richer from stealing from the country.

[–] Gammelfisch 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Musk fails to understand the racist themselves are attracted to the people they want to kill. DNA samples were taken from Hitler's relatives and they found Haplogroup E1b1b1, which means the motherfucker was part African and Jewish. His excuse for supporting Weidel and the fucking AfD is pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Man, I don't care how female, lesbian, or interracial anybody at the AfD is. They're a bunch of Putin dick riders. Their private lives don't enter into it.

(Incidentally, people like Musk and Trump love to question the credentials of politicians sharing the exact same attributes that this time around Musk has decided to praise. So, Musk, are they incompetent diversity hires, or are they "proof" that the party isn't racist? They can't be both!)

[–] Gammelfisch 1 points 5 days ago

+1...Indeed.

[–] ceiphas 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The most fun part is, that Alice Seidel is a lesbian, living in Switzerland that adppted a Child with -how do i put it- high melantonin

[–] Gammelfisch 2 points 6 days ago

Yep, +1. Like the Nazis, MAGAts, Communists and all the other extreme right and left nutters, a bunch of hypocrites.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

E1b1b1 is common in some Afroasiatic speakers. It probably traces back to the Neolithic Levantine farmers who spread around the Mediterranean but only a guess.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Come off it, that man hasn’t written anything.

[–] crystalmerchant 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Much less in German

(Unless he speaks German?? I've never heard him speak German)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

He only speaks it at the rallys

[–] febra 3 points 5 days ago

So you want to tell me that a nazi supports nazis??

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm having trouble finding the original op-ed. Could somebody provide a link?

[–] IndustryStandard 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, thanks, fwiw. Now, the only way for me to check the quotations first hand is to give money to the idiots who printed it lol. Ausgezeichnet. I checked the Internet Archive. They just show the same opening paragraph.

[–] random_character_a 1 points 5 days ago

He really wants to be Göring.

[–] uebquauntbez 1 points 5 days ago

So you wanna tell me an american billionaire bribes a german billionaire to support a far-right party that's founded to help poor people? Really? REALLY?

[–] [email protected] 223 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

To anyone confused: Musk may live in the US, but like all the uber-wealthy, he doesn't consider himself a citizen of anywhere because he can jump in his private jet and fly anywhere on a whim without needing to have his passport checked by anyone.

These people do not live in the same world as us, and the fact that Musk is knee-deep in numerous countries politics is ample fucking evidence of such. He will support any group that benefits him in the short-term, that's all.

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[–] [email protected] 178 points 1 week ago (6 children)

No respectable newspaper would platform a foreign billionaire trying to meddle in an election. The fact that the owners pushed this through, overruling their own staff, should be a clear sign to everyone: billionaires buy up news organizations to influence the population and undermine democracy. Even if the individual journalists have the utmost integrity, they will just get strong armed by upper management. The same thing happened with Bezos and the Washington Post.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Welt am Sonntag ist part of the Springer Media Group. They have a long history of pushing populist, conservative and right agendas and publishing Musk's opinion piece falls perfectly in line with the election meddling they are doing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

allies should have bombed the island of Föhr back then.

anyone remember how friede (head of the nazi news) transferred 1 billion € to one of her employees (döpfner) to start a TV station (BILD TV)? no taxes were paid because Friede is best friends with Angela Merkel. ofcourse BILD TV failed terribly but funds are used for propaganda.

anyway, if you ask the people that saw Friede Springer on Föhr grow up after WW2 might be able to tell you a story about how they let the refugees starve in the 50s. but officially everyone is just so scared of Friede Springer you'll never read about their murders.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

After the war pretty much all refugees in Schleswig-Holstein were starving, ration cards were not sufficient for anyone and refugees were in a worse situation to self-supply, housing was more than scarce, the refugee to native ratio was 3:4, multiple families sharing apartments, a family to a room. To this day many smaller cities are dominated by our version of commie blocks built back then things would've gotten very ugly without a massive building programme.

Dunno about the situation on Föhr in particular, and I don't doubt that Friede is an assclown, but you gotta be more specific. Did she, at the tender age of eight, e.g. prevent people from rummaging through already harvested fields to see what they can find? Demand payment for wool caught on fences?

Did we even distribute refugees to the islands back then? Doesn't really sound sensible or practical, there wasn't really anything more than subsistence farming going on anywhere on the Frisian islands and, short of the addition of tourism, still isn't. Industry on Föhr is like yes they have an electrician, a car mechanic, and a carpenter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

just saying the farmers i know all tell the same tale. refugees in SH had little to no food, but the farmers werent mistreating the people like the people of föhr did. and that her parents right? and thats that values of life she grew up with. and that explains a lot about her hate media outlet. so i just ask for the island of föhr to be removed. sylt needs sand. lets make things right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Dude Westerland made a Nazi war criminal mayor after the war and now are a luxury resort. Practically all non-affluent natives are living on the mainland and are commuting to the island to wipe rich people's asses who faint at the sight of a carousal of punks.

I'd say take both Föhr and Sylt and give it, shovel load by shovel load, to the Halligen so they can properly prepare for rising tides. Hooge deserves to have the highest peak in the whole state.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

agreed. btw first innenminister to SH was a Waffen SS judge. ofcourse a christian democrat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Die Welt is not reapectable. Its Springer Verlag. Basically the Murdoch of Germany.

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