Wow, I see the sugar industry was as influential there as it was in America.
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Would they have been expected to grow their own vegetables, or did they just embrace the average young male diet?
Sounds like a miserable existence. You're going to need a lot more vodka than that to cope.
Rationing in the early 80s is considered to be one of the major agitating factors that led to increased labor union activity and, thus, the eventual end of the Communist regime in Poland. Would seem that it was not nearly enough vodka to quietly cope!
I can see why. Like if I was flat broke, these rations would be super welcome, but as an ongoing totality of what I could have for all of my labor? No, fuck that! The people at the top were obviously hoarding all the wealth, which seems to always happen every time this form of government is tried.
It happens every time any form of government is tried to be honest. The problem is with people, not the system of government.
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Right. Which is a fundamental reason why the government should not be trusted to act in the best interest of the people. There must be checks and balances, and they must be held accountable and be forced to do their duty. The USA had a great run of this, but over the last 4 decades politicians have changed the lay of the land to benefit themselves and their donors more and more, and the people haven't the gumption, will, or faculties to challenge them and hold them to account. Politicians have also realized that much of our system relied upon integrity, or the assumption that the individual would follow the system, with very little to no consequences if they just do whatever they want.
I'm no historian, but I see the cycle of [Brave New World -> Prosperity / Dominance -> Decline -> Corruption -> Oppression -> Revolution -> Brave New World] as a fairly common pattern, with timescales from decades to centuries. It might be cognitive bias, but it seems kind of inevitable, really.
Scandinavia seems like a good place to live ATM.
Well, you still had to purchase the food, you were just limited by ration cards in how much of certain goods you could purchase.
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Vodka and cigarettes are not necessities. Different times, obviously. If the vodka was being made either from potatoes or grain, even if of lower quality, those would be better put towards adding extra available calories for people.
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This made me remember being told there was a time, my country being at war then, where cigarette packs were distributed to soldiers with a banner stamped on it that stated "Have a cigar and relax".
They weren't starving, most fresh produce wasn't rationed at all and was readily available. The items you see here are the just what was rationed due to supply.
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More on the history of this photograph here: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/food-rationing-communist-poland/
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I find it funny that a lot of people seem to be assuming that this is everything that they were allowed to eat. Fruits and veggies have been completely banned, in this world! Haha
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If you could even get all that, and if you could you had to queue for days
Is that not a lot of sugar for how few ingredients to use it with?
I imagine there are food items which aren't rationed, because there's no fruit or vegetables here. If you grew your own fruit and had sugar you could preserve it as jam. The sugar helps prevent spoilage. Or if you grew rhubarb you could make a pie, which would be pretty darn sour without sugar.
It's the cigarettes that kill me!
It's the cigarettes that kill me!
Apparently it's not just you, cigarettes are killing several people.
They’ve killed at least 2 people, maybe three people. It’s really hard to say
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