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Does anyone have this issue were firefox becomes slow if left open for a long time. In my case after a couple of weeks rendering becomes slow and when I use youtube for example if is laggy, just trying to change volume taka few second to show the volume bar. It also happens to my laptop at work. I have around 30 tabs open.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are we all going to ignore this person had Firefox open for weeks?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is that unusual? The only time I close apps is when I restart for an update like once or twice a month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And your computer is running THE WHOLE TIME?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

No of course not, sleep + hibernate after awhile in sleep mode is the default on windows.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most software in general has hard to detect issues after several weeks of uptime. Its something that's fundamentally hard to test and fix. Its a big reason why "did you turn it off and on again" is such universal advice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Even if the software was perfect, virtually all desktop RAM isn't ECC equipped, so you potentially have even the hardware corrupting the state and requiring restarting because of that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Under about:unloads, you will see a list of open tabs, sorted by resource usage. You can click-spam the "Unload" button until that list is empty, or until the most resource-intensive tabs are off the list.

This does not require any third-party dependencies, and the tab will still be present on top. The site will reload once the tab is selected again.

[–] Tyfud 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What you're describing is called a resource leak. Something, an extension, a background process, etc., is holding onto resources for too long without cleaning itself up automatically.

This is pretty common in writing code, and extremely difficult to prevent except in closed and well understood systems. A browser is anything but that, due to the nature of needing to work on any website doing whatever they want.

[–] owenfromcanada 34 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I don't hold anything against you, OP, but... 30 tabs open for two weeks makes me feel yucky on the inside.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have multiple Firefox windows with around 1-1.5k tabs on each, and they have been opened (and re opened) since about a year.
I ❤️ tabs, they make me feel all warm on the inside

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Lol I open them to look at later, and I also open lots songs on youtube to listen to and switch between songs rather than reopen the songs over and over I just keep it open.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You can bookmark webpages to come back to later and even organize them in trees by category. You can ceeate a playlist of songs from youtube and import it to a service with no ads like piped, then shuffle it. If you're willing to put up with 30+ open tabs these are much less time consuming than scrolling through the default way it situates tabs, AND there aren't 30 open tabs sucking your resources.

If you already knew all this, I'm almost sorry.

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[–] owenfromcanada 5 points 4 days ago

Oh, the 20 tabs thing is perfectly reasonable. But I'm one of those crazy people who completely shuts down his computer every night, including closing my browser. Been using computers for too many years to trust a browser to not leak memory.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Hahajahajaha

I have like 90?

Sorry, eh. (Yea, I know I shouldn't, but I'm lazy)

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes it happens. As others have said: just restart.

What might not be as clear: when you restart, if it doesn't just come up and offer to restore your session, you can go to History and Restore Previous Session. This reopens all your tabs (actually, they won't fully reload until you view them).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or just use bookmarks like a normal person

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Bookmarks are for really important stuff. Open tabs are for stuff I want to be able to easily stumble back upon, but I won't be butthurt if I dont.

There's nothing wrong with having more than one way to categorize stuff.

Edit: and considering that session data is also written to disk, there really isn't much difference between bookmarks and open tabs anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Why would you need your browser, let alone your PC on for weeks without any break

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

My laptop with a non-critical service: Uptime: 9 weeks, 5 hours, 34 minutes

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

FaaS: Firefox as a Service

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Close everything and start fresh

Your productivity shouldn't rely on keeping one piece of software running for long periods of time.

[–] GeraldiniBobini 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You can see the worst offenders in firefox by using the hamburger menu then more tools and Task manager. You can sort by ram. YouTube likes to hold gigs of ram for some videos. Close the biggest offenders and you'll get back close to normal speed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Ding ding ding, the only good reply in this thread.

The symptoms described by OP smell like good old memory exhaustion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

In my experience this doesn't matter. Firefox just slows down if it's been open for long, regardless for how long the tab has been open for. Even if you unload all active tabs and open a new one, that new tab will still be significantly slower than it would be if you restarted the entire browser.

It's some kind of slow resource leak somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 days ago

I've had this for years, I just exit and restart.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Adeptus mechanicus would be proud of this dude.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/auto-tab-discard/

I've got more than 30 open tabs, though in practice I don't actually need ALL those tabs loaded. The extension unloads inactive tabs after a configurable time. You can also configure the extension so that pinned tabs are not unloaded, certain domains/URL patterns are not unloaded, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

FFS, his leak is probably in an extension.

Installing more extensions that might also leak is not a real solution, no matter what they do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Firefox can automatically discard tabs when available memory gets too short. You need to configure it to do that though and probably disable the 10min minimum open time too if you're very short on memory.

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[–] donuts 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

If it's related to the thread you posted then try Nightly?

That's only in Nightly right now, unfortunately; it won't make it out to Release until v134.

Also, can I ask why you'd leave your browser open for weeks? Just curious of the use case. The thread mentions having 5700-7000 open tabs, and I can't fathom why someone would do that. It's not like the websites disappear if you close the tab. Nothing to do with the problem though, you don't have to answer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

some people use tabs as bookmarks 🤷

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Only the part with youtube. Don't know if they are pulling some tricks on uBlock users, but about 10 tabs of youtube can get nasty, even with a somewhat recent workstation.

[–] asmoranomar 3 points 4 days ago

Try using a tab suspend extension, something like 'auto tab discard'. Firefox has one built-in, but it's not aggressive enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It's either you need more RAM or you must learn to use a tab group extension. Also, if it gets slow, just restart it.

Simple Tab Groups is a nice add-on.

My personal favourite is Sidebery. It has vertical tabs and easily navigatable via mouse wheel. You can even unload a tab. And has tons of customization options.

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