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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 13 points 4 hours ago
[–] undergroundoverground 17 points 4 hours ago

Well yeah, that's how they got the 120 billion. This is the system working completely as intended. "It's not a bug. It's a feature."

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

Since 2010, they’ve raked in a combined $9 trillion in revenue, netting more than $371 billion in profits

When they phrase it that way the insurance companies actually look better than they're commonly marked for. If I'm putting the right number of 0s in a calculator that's a profit rate of 4.12% which is a heck of a lot less than places like the retailers where they can afford to have a half off sale.

What we could really use is breakout of the 'above bottom line' expenditures to see who takes what from each $ put in.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Profit is what remains after paying your executives large sums of money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

Profit is a useless measure in most respects. The money they spend on executive compensation and stock buybacks isn’t part of the profits. The money they funnel to their fake charities and non profits isn’t part of the profits. The money they give to politicians and high priced consultant friends is not part of the profits. Profit is really just what’s left over after quite of few people have already profited quite a bit.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The metric you need is what percent of revenue was used to pay doctors and hostpitals vs how much was wasted on “buisiness expenses”

Profit is just the leftovers that they couldnt figure out how to spend before tax time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty well what I said with regards to the above bottom line. I know someone has put out some nice pie chart at some point to say what % of your premium dollar goes to what, will have to try and track one down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago

Several years ago, a BadgerCare (the State of Wisconsin's Medicaid program) administrator told me once that the program has less than 3% administrative overhead. That means that out of every dollar spent on the program, $0.97 goes to pay for Wisconsin residents' medical care. He said that private insurance companies have something closer to 30% administrative overhead. I have no idea what it is now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

It also shows how convoluted and busy work the system is, how many utterly pointless jobs involved.

[–] SupraMario 2 points 4 hours ago

Retail stores don't kill people by raising the price of some shirt...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Counterbalance this with compensation for middle management up through the c-suite. These people get paid a lot of money to condemn us to death.

[–] NickwithaC 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
  1. Buy shares in health insurer

  2. Get claim denied

  3. Sell shares

  4. Pay medical bills and watch the share price drop for added schadenfreude

[–] jeeva 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Step 0. Have enough money to buy enough shares to pay your medical bills? 😬

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

Step -1) dad with emerald mine

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Hell yeah my one share went up 3%. Time to get that penis reduction surgery I've been putting off

[–] theangryseal 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Man, I thought I was alone.

This thing drags behind me like a tail. I could donate multiple penises to multiple innie dicks and I could still use mine as a lasso.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

Is that you, John Dillermand?