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[–] [email protected] 133 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"We guard against the pressures that exist for unsafe care or for unnecessary care to be delivered in a way which makes the whole system too complex and ultimately unsustainable," Witty said.

Frankly it's a miracle that so many countries around the world have functioning healthcare systems at all without these bastions of safety at the helm.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, the laws create the conditions. In Europe health care tends to be strictly regulated, so you don't get these wolves in health care. It's actually considered quite a dull career that pays decently but nothing out of the ordinary, even for the higher ups.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

As it should be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

There's really just one thing making the whole system unsustainable: the insurance companies making profit on the backs of American health.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 6 days ago (2 children)

These people have learned absolutely nothing from any of this. Don't expect any change from them short of government intervention.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 44 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's gonna take more than one ceo for them to learn.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We can't hope on another one, got crystalize some position. We need a healthcare reform and Luigi must be freed, frankly I am not convinced he even did. This is all very rushed with layers of psyop. It aint right.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

There's 335 million people in this country, and depending on estimates there are enough guns for every man, woman, and child to have more than one gun.

We're may not yet be at the point where enough people have their backs against the wall to do something, but there is plenty of people and guns for it. And many of us will soon find ourselves with our backs against the wall when the effects of climate change start really fucking people over with job loss, home loss, crop failure, and mass migration.

There's that, and the fact that this month just taught the would be school shooters that they'll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They'll get labeled a folk hero, they'll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they'll get their name in the history books. They'll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.

The material conditions have not changed, and they're likely to change for the worse. That's bad news for any business exec who wants to keep their head on their shoulders.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Look at Syria. Not today, Syria before the revolution.

People were living through grinding poverty, political repression with performative elections of a nepo-dictator, avoiding a police state with literal death squads, and just trying to get by and support their families.

Until Mohamed set himself on fire, and thus the Arab world.

Americans as a whole are too comfortable (or at least, enough of them are) and propagandized into believing that this is the way it has to be, for a big societal movement to coalesce around “fuck that shit”. We’re still infighting between political camps, or distracted dealing with reactionaries.

Expect a lot more of the “nothing to lose” shooters before another Che Guevara. Maybe we’ll come close again and claw some back, or we’ll have the United Fruit Company again.

[–] mojofrododojo 2 points 6 days ago

too many can only see the results of tearing down a system without another to step in.

honestly this is one of the things that frightens me, accelerationists don't give two fucks what comes after, they just want to tear it all down.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Government intervention outside of use of the military will not be forthcoming.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

The government is currently doing these parasites bidding.

Political whores are coming out one by one chastising the plebs.

Media is getting aggressive too.

Its afraid. Jpeg

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've some entirely unrelated facts to share. Just facts. No editorial.

Andrew Witty is the chief executive officer of UnitedHealth Group, the parent corporation of UnitedHealthcare.

Stephen J. Hemsley is the chairman of the board of UnitedHealth Group and has a net worth of at least $340.37 million.

David Cordani is the chief executive officer, president, and chairman of Cigna

Sarah London is the chief executive officer of Centene Corporation

David Joyner is the chief executive officer and president of CVS Health

Jim Rechtin is the chief executive officer and president of Humana

Gail Koziara Boudreaux is the chief executive officer and president of Elevance Health

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

Could we get some pictures to go along with the names? No reason...

[–] latenightnoir 47 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Well... yeah... of course they would! Hitler didn't stop with the first death of a Sergeant!

[–] UnhingedFridge 40 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's not the denials, that happens. It's the fact that the industry average is 16% and UH is at 33%. FTS!

[–] Taalnazi 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Denials in the first place shouldn't be a thing. Healthcare should be free from the shackles of capitalism, marketing, profit, and these other inhumane abuses.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Fair. I agree that there should be healthcare that is, as you say, "free from the shackles of capitalism, marketing, profit, and these other inhumane abuses." And yet, within the system which we currently have, denials occur and there is a rate at which they occur on average and for individual companies. I was only commenting on the current state, not the ideal glory to which we all aspire. I switched from UH shortly after I realized those numbers above. Do I love the other company I chose just like I love my family, friends, etc? Noooooo! I picked a slightly less evil health insurance company, on the way to keeping healthy, and moving towards the ideal state I hope we can achieve.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Clearly it’s that doctors with contracts with United Healthcare are twice as likely to be fraudulent. Widespread conspiracy among doctors is just the only reasonable explanation!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One lil, two lil, three lil CEOs......

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 9 points 6 days ago

Four lil, five lil board members...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
[–] BackwardMonkey 18 points 6 days ago

I think we should start calling every one of them "current and temporary CEO". It's factually true.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

This parasite said he wants to kill the host...

Is there a specific reason why we got immigrant with NHS coverage making these decisions?

Asking for a friend...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Delicious, delicious healthcare insurance executives.

I could eat them all and still be hungry.