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President-elect Donald Trump confirmed his promise to end birthright citizenship on his first day in office despite constitutional protections.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The 14th Amendment is attached to a lot of important rights, not just birthright citizenship.

  1. Brown v. Board of Education - racial segregation,
  2. Loving v. Virginia - interracial marriage
  3. Obergefell v. Hodges - regarding same- sex marriage
  4. Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard - regarding race-based college admissions
  5. Disqualification from office for insurrection or rebellion ( wonder if anyone is guilty of this one)

People need to remember Roe v. Wade and all the zombie laws that kicked off. This will greatly impact everyone and he is trying to kill it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The constitution will be removed

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

No need, this one amendment will change a lot. 13th and 15th have already been eroded. The klan wants to remove the guardrails put in after the civil war. To make america great again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

A lot of people decided Harris wasn't good enough. You've listed the buffet they've selected.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Democrats didnt run a good program. Centrist theme with "4 more years" of the same stuff.

Think how Biden started off. Lying about a stimulus check and then forgiving ppp loans. Letting the supreme court stand as is and his AG did nothing with Jan. 6.

The build back better plan should have been a massive awakening for Dems. Masaive support for infrastructure.

What did they do after that? Started to talk aboyt midterms and how they have to fix the boarder. Then Isreal came and the cemeted their legacy. "We will not change" should have been Harris's slogan.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now you get all of that, plus constitutional amendment content as a bonus.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I voted for her but I also consume a lot of news. The average American doesn't. She lost her base when she decided to run around with Cheney and Clinton.

Her initial stance was anti big companies and billionaires until she talked to her brother -in- law. She stood for nothing but support me, I'm not him. However they should have charged and tried him.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I'm with you there.

I'more addressing the loud lemmings that did the whole performative bit.like she was the end of all.

Now we have a literal country ending risk on our hands.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

That’s how it’s going to happen.

[–] BradleyUffner 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The supreme court is the final arbiter of what the constitution means. If they say it allows for this, then it allows for this, and there is no legal recourse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Except for that old American standy

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

"Well, we're going to have to get a change," Trump remarked. "We'll maybe have to go back to the people. But we have to end it."

Who'll collectively tell you to go fuck yourself.

"Well, if we can, through executive action," Trump replied. "I was going to do it through executive action, but then we had to fix COVID first, to be honest with you. We have to end it."

You mean, let 350,000 people die before a coherent thought came through your mind. And even then it took other people, not you, to fix it.

[–] credo 2 points 2 days ago

Someone needs to take his Sharpie away from him. He’s been sniffing it too much.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Does anyone have a non-paywall link to this article?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

No need. I'll summarize:

Trump says he'll do something he can't do. So in effect, nothing at all is going to happen.

[–] grue 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump says he’ll do something he can’t do. So in effect, nothing at all is going to happen.

You say that as if he hasn't already done literally dozens, if not hundreds, of things the law says he can't do and gotten away with them all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a totally fair take but in this case he really can't do anything at all. It'd be like standing in front of a podium and declaring that the sun is black and then stepping away. Getting rid of birthright citizenship is one of those things where everyone has to agree to do it. Otherwise it's just an old man yelling at a cloud.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

An old man with the power of the military, and a government full of bootlickers put in place to do whatever he wants. It doesn't matter if it's illegal if they've removed everyone that would stop him

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Thank you for the summary. It is much appreciated 😊

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

President-elect Donald Trump confirmed his promise to end birthright citizenship on his first day in office despite constitutional protections.

In an interview that aired Sunday on NBC, host Kristen Welker pressed Trump on his campaign promise to do away with birthright citizenship.

"You've promised to end birthright citizenship on day one," Welker noted. "Is that still your plan?"

"Yeah, absolutely," Trump insisted.

"The 14th Amendment, though, says that, quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens," Welker pointed out. "Can you get around the 14th Amendment with an executive action?"

"Well, we're going to have to get a change," Trump remarked. "We'll maybe have to go back to the people. But we have to end it."

"Through an executive action?" the NBC host asked.

"Well, if we can, through executive action," Trump replied. "I was going to do it through executive action, but then we had to fix COVID first, to be honest with you. We have to end it."

[–] paraphrand 6 points 3 days ago

I’m glad he fixed COVID.