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Korea / 조선

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A community about anything related to Korea, such as news about the countries (DPRK and south), discussion, photos and videos, the language, etc.

See also: [email protected], which is intended for memes rather than serious discussion of these topics.

The picture of this Lemmy community is magnolia (목란), the national flower of the DPRK. The background picture is a scenery of Pyongyang.

Rules:

  1. No imperialist apologia. The DPRK didn't start the war. US imperialist invasion was not justified. Neither are their army bases in south Korea. The sanctions were and are not justified.

  2. Be respectful. The imperialist media likes to describe the DPRK people as completely brainwashed, and that it'd be fine to completely destroy that country in an invasion. Don't act like the imperialist media.

  3. Be skeptical of your sources. Don't trust the media that has been known to report many falsehoods about Korea already. (You may still link to them if they write something interesting / worth reading, just be careful.)

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The name has been almost permanently ruined. Whenever people hear of it, they always think of no food, 1984, worshipping the leader, getting your entire family arrested for not doing so, all that stuff. And if you say otherwise, they just call you a propagandist who is hiding the truth. And even if Korea's government does anything like build a water park, people say that it is just to "fool the world into believing they are good". Like they can't even build an entire village without people saying that they are just building it to deceive people.

At least China is taken seriously by a lot of people.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dear angry libs:

The only acceptable opinion for an American to express about the DPRK is contrition for the genocide their government commited there. Anything else will be met with well-deserved mockery.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

P.S.

Dear angry libs:

Cry harder. I want to drink more of your tears.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Why are you being so mean? Do the lives of millions of entrepreneurs, Japanese patriots, American neoliberals, and other perfectly harmless anticommunists mean absolutely nothing to you?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit, just realized that the liberals are already here, didn't expect it to be this fast.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You should have defended Imperial America and its Korean client state instead. Anticommunists wouldn’t have minded if you did that.

If you said that massacring millions of Koreans and pouring gasoline down their babies’ throats was okay then it’s no big deal.

If you said ‘during the cooperativization period, mass campaigns involving huge numbers of people carried out irrigation works and forest and water conversation projects’ then you need to be deported immediately or given the death penalty, depending on whatever’s less expensive.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Can't believe that South Korea is often portrayed as this OmG wHoLeSoMe PaRaDiSe!1!1!1! when they legit have a lower birth rate than Japan, have some of the most depressed and suicidal people on the planet, some of the longest workhours, and all this on top of historically existing to be an anticommunist dictatorship.

Meanwhile, North Korea has active worker participation in society at large yet it is portrayed as this bleak dystopia and the worst place on Earth.

Working people so hard that they are driven to suicide just to own the tankies.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

…North Korea has active worker participation in society at large yet it is portrayed as…

To the bourgeois, that's exactly a

bleak dystopia and the worst place on Earth.

It's a wonder why the working class don't realise why they have been taught to hate it. I suppose it's mainly because the 'working class' that had been taught to hate it is mostly labour aristocrats and PMC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've heard that the Japanese have a word for dying from overwork

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Anyone interested in brainwashing and the DPRK should really check out the documentary Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang .

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the US should be forced to pay reparations to the country for the slandering alone.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They should sue for defamation in the ICC/j

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The quote

In the United States, for over a hundred years, the ruling interests tirelessly propagated anticommunism among the populace, until it became more like a religious orthodoxy than a political analysis. During the Cold War, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn’t go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.

-- Michael Parenti, Blackshirts And Reds

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Perfectly describes this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Thanks comrade!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Saw a vid recently like “hey who’s the better korea guys? Comment down below, smash the like button, become a subscriber” and they give the worst one-sided history where they’re like the North invaded and lost, and now they’re trying to stock up on nukes to invade South Korea and possibly destroy other countries as it builds up its military, so who’s the good guy? The comments were 98% “I’m riding with Team 🇰🇷😎🆒👍” like no shit, they didn’t explain it properly and these people only know about K-Pop and nothing else about Korea

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