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My 2080ti died today. I haven't been keeping up with PC hardware, what are some good replacements/upgrades? I game at 1440p and I'd like to be able to go max settings at 60fps.

From my quick research it seems like the 4070 super (or super ti) is good but I'm also curious what AMD is offering. My budget is pretty flexible but ideally id like to keep it around 1250 CAD

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[–] edgemaster72 8 points 2 weeks ago

Given your stated desire for 1440p@60 fps with max settings, it seems your priority is graphical fidelity above all else. To me that would mean not using stuff like DLSS or FSR, relying on the raw power of the card instead. In that case I would agree with Limonene's recommendation of the 7900 XTX given your budget. It has raw compute on par with the more expensive 4080 (Super), and comes with as much VRAM as a 4090.

You should note its TDP is about 100W higher than that of the 2080 Ti, so you'll want to make sure your PSU can handle it or otherwise factor that into your budget if you haven't already. And since you'd be going from nVidia to AMD I would recommend using DDU to remove your old drivers.

[–] Limonene 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The current series of AMD GPUs is the Radeon RX 7000 series.

The flagship card is the RX 7900 XTX, nominally $1000 USD. There are multiple graphics cards manufacturers that make these cards, and at least one (PowerColor) has a 7900 XTX card for $850 USD ($1190 CAD). PowerColor is not bad, and I'd probably buy that one if I needed a top quality card. The more reputable brand, Asus, has a 7900 XTX card for $1030 USD ($1442 CAD).

My current best video card has a RX 6950 XT chip. This was the highest grade chip in the RX 6000 series, but I got it after the RX 7000 series came out, so it was only $630 USD. It's currently available for $550. It is pretty good, and can do most games at 1080p on "ultra", and some games on 4k. Usually, CPU or SSD speed (or software quality) make a bigger difference in frame rate for me.

If you plan to game on Linux, I strongly recommend avoiding Nvidia cards, due to lack of good drivers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I see, I've managed to find a 7900xtx for the same price as a 4070 ti super. Would you say that's a better purchase? I don't use Linux for gaming.

[–] daddybutter 4 points 2 weeks ago

7900 XTX is a step up from the 4070 Ti Super in raster performance. If you don't care about ray tracing and you don't need Nvidia specific stuff like nvenc or cuda, the 7900 would be the better buy if they're the same price.

[–] Limonene 1 points 2 weeks ago

I would trust the post by daddybutter on this, since I'm less familiar with Nvidia's products. My favorite benchmark site ranks them as pretty similar.

[–] Vinny_93 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No clue about the value of a Canadian dollar but I've got a 4070 and I can do a lot of stuff at 1440p far above 60 fps.

AMD will put something like the 7800XT across from that. 7700XT might be in the ballpark but you'll be upgrading in two years.

You might wait a month or two for the 5xxx series of Nvidia unless you're really in need.

It might be interesting to have a look at the Intel line-up. Their top of the line might come close to something like a 4060ti.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yea unfortunately I'm not really in a position to wait. I've also been told I may need to upgrade my CPU as I'm currently using a 3900x, do you think that's the case?

[–] Sanctus 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not if you just want to get up and running again. A newer GPU uses a lot of its own cores and vram. But it could bottleneck there with an older CPU if you're doing intensive stuff. Gaming should remain fine, idk about brand new AAA titles tho I dipped from those companies a while back.

[–] daddybutter 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People on the BuildAPC Sales Canada subreddit saying Canada Computers has the Gigabyte 4080 Super Windforce V2 for $1199 in store as a secret price (showing 1399 online). They also have an MSI 4070 Ti Super for $1019 online or $999 in store.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Damn if this is true I'll probably go with that then. Thanks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm running a 7900XT and run most things maxed out or nearly so at 1440. FSR may not be as effective as DLSS but it still gives a nice boost to framerates. I got mine for about 900 CAD this summer, so if you're willing to put in the extra cash, an XTX will get you some extra performance on top of that.

For example, on CP2077, I only have a few settings below max, and have raytracing on Ultra (which is the 2nd highest setting), and I don't think I ever go below 60FPS. I have FSR on, but no framegen. I think during gameplay, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference if I turned the other options any higher, but my framerate would drop below 60.

What are some games that you currently play or expect to play, for reference?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Double check whether your motherboard supports PCIe 4.0. The 2080ti was 3.0 so there is potential to be bottlenecked by your motherboard here. edit: though the bottleneck potential due to PCI express bandwidth is not very high atm.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I would sugvest the 4070 Ti Super because I think you will longer graphical performance out of it than Radeon, and sinse path tracing is the way of the future, nVidia stands on their own.

Sure at any price point Radeon can put up higher numbers, but as soon as you turn on lighting like raytracing and path tracing, the numbers for Radeon fall off.

I k.ow there is continuous debates about how pointless raytracing is, or what Unreal Engine calls Lumen I believe, but look at 5 games who promote raytracing as a selling point for the game with the feature turned on and how it looks turned off, and also look at the difference between raytracing and path tracing, and I argue it's only going to get better than the current iteration, thereby making it the way of the future for games so buy a GPU that is better prepared for future new releases.