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[–] spankmonkey 55 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Originally, the leaks had pinned the price of the RTX 5090 at $1999, leaving many of us largely unsurprised at Nvidia continuing to push the price of its flagship card even higher. That’s not only because it maintains a market-leading position – with AMD expected not to even try and compete at this extreme end of the GPU market this generation – but also because of the huge uptick in the specification of this new GPU.

I remember back in the day when they made huge leaps every generation but the prices remained fairly stable, not increasing by 33%. This is all due to lack of competition and profit seeking, not technical improvements.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Merchant will always charge the highest price they can extract, this is pricing 101. Fuck your economies of scale etc.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

This is all due to lack of competition and profit seeking, not technical improvements.

And people buying it anyway instead of sticking to actually reasonably priced products.

[–] Ptsf 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not to defend nvidia entirely, but there are physical cost savings that used to occur with actual die wafer shrinkage back in the day since process node improvements allowed such a substantial increase in transistor density. Improvements in recent years have been lesser and now they have to use larger and larger dies to increase performance despite the process improvements. This leads to things like the 400w 4090 despite it being significantly more efficient per watt and causes them to get less gpus per silicon wafer since the dies are all industry standardized for the extremely specialized chip manufacturering equipment. Less dies per wafer means higher chip costs by a pretty big factor. That being said they're certainly... "Proud of their work".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Lack of competition or people showing they'll pay insane prices so they are meeting that demand?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Ok, but fuck NVidia. What's with AMD? Will there be a card that matches the 7900XTX at least? Will there be a 8900?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

AMD said they'll focus on the low and midrange segments, so likely not.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

No. But there will be an 8800 xt that is more powerful than the 7900 xt.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Journalists [...] suggest the upcoming GPU could cost around $1900. Manufacturers have allegedly been told anywhere from $1899 to $1999 will be the expected range, lining up with pricing rumors from last month.

For reference, the RTX 4090 launched at $1599 for its Founder’s Edition but has since crept up to nearly $2000 or more for overclocked cards.

Ouch. I was a sap who built my first gaming rig in 2015 and I thought I was dumb for buying a Titan X (Maxwell) for $999. Hard to fathom paying double that for one GPU

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Honestly specs hardly matter for the top of the line GPUs. The flops are basically infinite, and gaming has visually stagnated to the point where you would never know the difference. I just bought a new card and focused mostly on vram per dollar, which probably has a stronger correlation with hardware longevity.

[–] ComradeMiao 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My 1080 still running strong… who is paying for these

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I eventually upgraded from my 1080 to a 3070, joined a wait list for EVGA and got it at MSRP like 2 years after release, took forever. I kinda wanted to get a new card every other generation but not at these prices.

[–] resetbypeer 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

AMD will not do anything until they go UDNA around 2026. I hope AMD can take enough midrange market share. Heck even rooting for Intel in the GPU market. We need competition.

[–] Harvey656 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

AMD need to get off their asses. This shit sucks.

[–] b34k -2 points 2 months ago

Sweet, guess my 4090 FE isn’t going to depreciate in value anytime soon.