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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

All of the silos are in rural areas; those are mostly known and definitely first-strike targets. Cities need very few nukes to take out individually. Nowhere will anyone be rebuilding from the ashes. If the war is limited and nuclear winter doesn't make the entire planet uninhabitable, the only places with a chance of surviving are the undeveloped countries. No developed country will be habitable.

Nuclear fallout is a bitch.

[–] SendMePhotos 1 points 41 minutes ago

Dang, I was thinking west coast might be OK because of the winds.

[–] Cryan24 2 points 3 hours ago

Australia, New Zealand, Ireland (possibly) and some South American countries would be ok.

[–] inv3r510n 35 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

False. Nuclear war kills most of the population on the planet, whether from a direct hit, fallout, food and water being contaminated, or the breakdown of society that comes after.

Those who get killed by the direct hit will be considered lucky by the people unlucky enough to survive it.

[–] Zahille7 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You're so fucking stupid I don't even have an insult or something clever to say, other than remove yourself from the gene pool.

[–] SendMePhotos 2 points 39 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Take a look at the movie "Threads" about the effects of a nuclear war. It's from back in the cold war, but a lot of it remains relevant:

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SendMePhotos 1 points 36 minutes ago

Thanks, didn't see that one. I'll check it out tonight.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

Unless they decided to nuke all the arable land instead, lower upfront deaths, but the long term famine will get everyone.

Realistically, nuclear war is the end of everyone, its called MAD for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

All-out nuclear war would kill every human on the planet.

[–] inv3r510n 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think that’s an exaggeration, but the population would drop dramatically and only small self sustaining nations far from the conflict would survive. But it’s 2024 and most of the world is interdependent on each other for trade of essential goods…

[–] movies 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nuclear war would be absolutely apocalyptic. Lookup the US policy on “Launch on Warning” and “Hair-trigger alert”. Russia has the same thing and China by this point probably does, too. If the US were targeted those doctrines would come into effect and we’d go into “escalate to de-escalate” mode. And that’d make it worse.

There would be multiple thousands of warheads launched around the globe. EMPs would be detonated in the atmosphere, continent-wide power grids would fail. A single Ohio-class nuclear submarine has more destructive power than every bomb, including the two nukes, dropped in WWII — and they’d light the place up. And then you have all the various contamination in the air, soil, and water that would be cycled through the ecosystem for hundreds and thousands of years.

Pockets of people would live, certainly, but it’d be awful. Like Khrushchev said, “the survivors will envy the dead.”

[–] inv3r510n 6 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, once one nuke starts flying they’re all going to start flying. Maybe some small island communities in the South Pacific would survive but they’ll probably wish they didn’t…

You brought up US China and Russia, but don’t forget how many others have nukes. India and Pakistan would go at it too… France has nukes as well right? I can’t remember if the UK, Germany and Norway do…

It would be an absolute shit show. It’s downright frightening that some members of society think that “only the democrat cities will get hit!” In the shower no less… are the trump voters being primed to accept a nuclear war because they don’t think they will suffer? Scary shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] spankmonkey 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Yup, even killing 99% of the population leaves 8,00,000 people, and many of them won't develop cancer fast enough to keep the population from continuing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

So, the Handmaiden's Tale?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Nah the rural areas would die longer and more painful deaths.

[–] SendMePhotos 1 points 35 minutes ago

Perhaps. I was thinking that if countries are going after casualties, the would simply fire at large cities. Those who live on a farm in the middle of nowhere, would mostly just have to worry about the winds blowing the fallout towards them.

[–] Rhynoplaz 2 points 8 hours ago

Where I live will never be a bomb target. So, I'll still be here. But you're right. I'm VERY outnumbered.