this post was submitted on 09 Nov 2024
36 points (95.0% liked)

Ukraine

8356 readers
363 users here now

News and discussion related to Ukraine

*Sympathy for enemy combatants is prohibited.

*No content depicting extreme violence or gore.

*Posts containing combat footage should include [Combat] in title

*Combat videos containing any footage of a visible human must be flagged NSFW

Server Rules

  1. Remember the human! (no harassment, threats, etc.)
  2. No racism or other discrimination
  3. No Nazis, QAnon or similar
  4. No porn
  5. No ads or spam (includes charities)
  6. No content against Finnish law

Donate to support Ukraine's Defense

Donate to support Humanitarian Aid


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 7 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Rottcodd 29 points 1 month ago

By "peace" what they actually mean is "submission."

Russia's already getting a return on their investment.

[–] Carrolade 17 points 1 month ago

"And if that is your priority of getting Crimea back and having American soldiers fight to get Crimea back, you're on your own."

You don't need that propaganda line anymore, you already won. Or did you actually start to believe it?

[–] Jumi 16 points 1 month ago

Roosevelt in 1940 says Allies focus must be peace and not retaking territory...

Oh no, wait, he didn't...

[–] Kaavi 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Europe needs to give a minimum of 0,5% of GDP until Ukraine has won. If USA stops the support, Europe must stop all aid that include American weapons and only donate European weapons - Europe first.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Yep. NATO countries need to shift to a partial wartime stance and shovel ammo to Ukraine and build their own stockpile.

War is coming.

[–] Buffalox 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why so low? in the 70's we (Denmark) had a 4% budget for foreign aid! Later reduced to 2%, but we can do more if we want.
If we were actually directly at war with Russia, we would likely spend 25% maybe more on it.
Surely Europe can give more than 0.5% to stop Russia terrorizing Europe.
Clearly Europe and allies need to step up the game, now that we can't expect more help from USA efter January.
We also need to do more against Hungary and Slovakia for being traitors to EU. That should not be allowed to go unpunished.

Ukraine is entitled both legally and morally to have their land back including Crimea.
Trumps advisor is talking like a Russian puppet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

A French General complained about the presence of American troops at an exercise, and said “I wish these Americans would leave.” The American General overheard him, and asked “Should we also take the men in the graves who died invading Normandy?” The French General, surprised, turned, and he said, “Yes, when your president has you turn and run, try not to forget them when you pack.”