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What is Cyberpunk?

Cyberpunk is a science-fiction sub-genre dealing with the integration of society and technology in dystopian settings. Often referred to as “low-life and high tech,” Cyberpunk stories deal with outsiders (punks) who fight against the oppressors in society (usually mega corporations that control everything) via technological means (cyber). If the punks aren’t actively fighting against a megacorp, they’re still dealing with living in a world completely dependent on high technology.

Cyberpunk characteristics include:

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Lemmy needs more content that isn't about US politics right now so I'm making a random post.

What's the most obscure cyberpunk movie you've seen? Name a cyberpunk movie you don't think anyone else has heard of.

I'm not saying you have to think it's a good movie (or that you even like it), I just want to discuss obscure, unknown cyberpunk movies. Come on, let's talk about something other than politics here.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I saw a Cyberpunk movie around 2014 that I've been searching for since then. Maybe the folks in this thread can help me find it. I only remember one scene:

It's nighttime, and our protagonist (a white male) walks down a subway-style staircase into an underground (literally and figuratively) VR cafe of sorts. He meets with a woman who takes him down a hallway, and they glance into several of the rooms. We can see people in their VR worlds - some of them are men playing simulations of making love to groups of attractive women. Some are engaging in violent fantasies. They come to the room the protagonist will use to enter the VR space, and it looks like a dentist chair with the headset dangling from the ceiling on a metal contraption. There's CRT displays all around that will allow the woman to monitor the protagonist as he's in his VR world on a mission.

Likely English but possibly a foreign film.

That's all I can remember. Does it ring a bell for anyone? I've spent countless hours trying to track this one down.

It's not Johnny Mnemonic or Strange Days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

Are you sure it wasn't Minority Report with Tom Cruise? There's a scene where the precog takes Cruise to a seedy club to use a VR headset to view his memories. He looks in on the other customers as he walks by.

[–] fum 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I have a very similar memory but can't for the life of me remember anything else about the movie!

For a while I was convinced it was A.I. Artificial Intelligence the scene had Jude Law's character Gigolo Joe in it. But from a quick search that doesn't seem right.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

i don't know if it counts as proper cyberpunk but it floated to tie top of my mind when i read the post.

in fall 2014 i was visiting a friend in stockholm, and through some weird mix of circumstances we found ourselves in the apartment of a friend of a friend of theirs, at three in the afternoon, like eight of us in a three-person sofa bed and watching Algorithm. the guy who lived there really wanted to show it to us since he thought it was so cool, gritty and realistic. i remember that he had a photograph on his wall of him shaking hands with the king. i think he worked for google. anyway...

it is one of the worst movies i've seen. and it's not funny bad. it's an angsty drama about a computer hacker hiding from the authorities, so it's mostly about how good he is with computers. all in this muted gray-green color, it's mostly shot day-for-night, and it's just soooo boring.

the only detail i vividly remember is a scene where the protagonist swaps to a new burner phone. he does this by taking the SIM card out, throwing the old phone in a bin, and putting the SIM into the new phone. i still think about that scene.

[–] lemmy_get_my_coat 2 points 5 hours ago

I can't read that title now except for "The Gene Gene-Ration"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Not a movie, but a TV show: Max Headroom

It’s about journalists and an AI having adventures.

[–] Breadhax0r 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I think his first appearance was actually in a made for TV movie, but also Max Headroom is far from obscure. Still good though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

Actually, this is an interesting one to me... Max Headroom was everywhere in the 80s (even in coke commercials) and yet his popularity dropped off so quickly, it wouldn't surprise me if most people born after the 80s would never have even heard of him. If you didn't grow up with Max Headroom, I don't know how you would find out about him today. Definitely a product of the time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

Absolutely! That one's super obscure to me. I'm pretty sure I've seen it yet I don't remember anything from it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yeah I also came across something called Terminus (1987) which sounds kinda cyberpunk, but haven't watched it yet. See it free on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dBxa992y1g

In the year 2037, an international sport has been established, wherein a driver of a truck must cross the country and arrive at a designated terminus, while confronting obstacles and enemies along the way. The lead truck, named "Monster", has been designed by a boy genius (Gabriel Damon) and is to be piloted through the course by a woman named Gus (Karen Allen). Eventually, the truck's AI fails and Gus ends up in uncharted territories...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminus_(1987_film)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

One of the comments said it's missing 15 minutes. Wonder why?

[–] Hasherm0n 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Probably tekwar. I don't think I've ever seen mention of it.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0111385/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

William Shatner's TekWar! It all looks awful, I don't know how they made so much of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Said the robot pimp disdainfully.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Based upon the books by William Shatner, a.k.a. the original Captain Kirk? It was a thing for a few years in the '90s, but yeah - pretty much dropped off the radar entirely afterwards.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Can't even seem to find it now. It was a non-English film. Eastern European, I think. Most of it was shot in sepia tones. It's about people who put everything into a virtual reality game. Build their whole lives around playing it.

The protagonist makes a fantastic meal for her cat while eating slop herself.

Was probably from the early 2000s. I think I watched it because I ran across a review of it and it happened to be orderable on Netflix DVD.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Since someone else just mentioned this movie, is it possible you were thinking of Avalon (2001)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

That's the one!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Strange Days is one of those often listed near the bottom on lists of the best cyberpunk movies and I almost never see it talked about or mentioned in discussions. I think it goes under the radar because it's not visually spectacular, nor is it very futuristic. Classic dialogue heavy sci-fi.

[–] PenguinOfWar 3 points 8 hours ago

100% agree. This jumped right to the top for me, really enjoyed it and always recommend it to people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

You're right, Strange Days is definitely a classic yet visually it isn't very sci-fi. The themes and plot are extremely sci-fi (and cyberpunk) yet if you just looked at a random frame from the movie you wouldn't really be able to tell.

[–] mrnarwall 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Cyberpunk has never been what draws me to science fiction, but I'd say the most obscure is probably existence (if that counts?). It came out in 1999 and was overshadowed by the matrix. I

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago

eXistenZ definitely counts! Cronenberg being weird in a way that only Cronenberg can.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

oh yeah I also came across a movie called "CyberTracker" (1994) recently. It sounds pretty cyberpunk but def low-budget, I haven't watched it.

In the future, Eric Anthony Phillips is the head of the Secret Service detachment assigned to protect Senator Bob Dilly (John Aprea). Senator Dilly is a champion of the recently implemented Computerized Judicial System (Computerized Justice for short), a product of Cybercore Industry, that uses data as evidence to determine the guilt of accused criminals, then carries out the sentence using cyborg executioners called "Trackers" (Maniaci). However, the more Phillips learns about Dilly and the Cybercore's ruthless plans, the more uncomfortable he becomes...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberTracker_(film)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

At least Cyber Tracker has a Rifftrax for it, which could make the movie bearable. (RiffTrax is from the guys who made Mystery Science Theater 3000)

https://www.rifftrax.com/cyber-tracker

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

I've watched this specific one! The rifftrax actually made for a pretty great time - from what I remember the movie had some cool ideas (and the jokes kind of filled in for the rest).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Hmmm.... I started watching OtherLife (2017) the other day... it's more of a techno-thriller than cyberpunk tho.... But it does have evil corporates and evil government types... you can see it free here: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x93okqm

It's kind of meh, but if you're in the mood for something Inception-like, you might dig it.

OtherLife is a 2017 Australian science fiction thriller film directed by Ben C. Lucas. It stars Jessica De Gouw as the co-founder of OtherLife, a company that developed a form of biological virtual reality. When her business partner, played by T.J. Power, insists she license it for unethical use, she struggles to retain control of her invention with the help of her lover...

edit: oops forgot this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OtherLife

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

Not that obscure but I liked the cyberpunk portions of cloud atlas.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

New Rose Hotel. Featuring Willem Dafoe and Christopher Walken! Story by William Gibson! I may be mistaken, but I think he even wrote the screenplay, like in Johnny Mnemonic. But sadly not a very good movie. Its painfully slow. The original short story clearly did not have enough content for a movie. However, if you were to cut it down, there is a really good Cyberpunk movie hidden there. Maybe someday it gets the fancut it deserves...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

I just watched that recently! Yeah, very weird movie. The vast majority of it takes place in a hotel room and all the major events occur off-screen. Such a strange movie. And with that cast, you'd think they could've made it more interesting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Cypher 2002

It's not my favorite but i enjoy rewatching it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh man, that's a movie i haven't thought about in a long time... I know I've seen it and I'm pretty sure I liked it but I don't remember a single thing about it. Time to go see if it's streaming anywhere...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

that's basically what the movie is about lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Lol the left arm on the middle poster is so loooong

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oooo listed! Moon was amazing!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Fun fact: Clint Mansell created the OST for both movies. Enjoy!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I wanted to like Mute but I really didn't like Paul Rudd's character in it. Overall, I think it had some good visuals but something about that movie just didn't work for me.

Did you like the movie? What was your favorite part?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I did enjoy the visuals and was okay with the protagonist, but lots of the story and most other characters were not really working out for me. I can't really put my finger on it why that is. But the soundtrack? Oh.My.God! Clint Mansell absolutely nailed it - like he always does! I've been following his career since his first soundtrack: Pi from 1998. Maybe I should mention here that I'm an ex musician myself.

My favourite Cyberpunk movie is Upgrade from 2018.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Upgrade was definitely good - should be on everyone here's watch list.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hardware. Saw this with a friend in the theater, we thought it was terrible. I've revisited it since, and while I won't say it's great I think it's worth a watch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago

I agree, I think it's worth a watch. It's the only real "cyberpunk horror" movie I can think of. I mean, there are plenty of body horror cyberpunk movies (especially in Japanese cyberpunk) but Hardware is the only one I know that really follows a "slasher" horror movie format.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

Of the movies I put in the picture above, I think Crime Zone is the most fun. It's still not a good movie, but it isn't nearly as painfully bad as Cyber Wars or Gene Generation. Here's a trailer. You can watch it on amazon and tubi right now.

[–] calamityjanitor 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I didn't know about Until the End of the World (1991) till recently. Can't say it was worth watching, but bounty bear was amazing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago

Wow, I have never heard of this movie. I just watched a trailer and it looks very strange. I think I'll take your word for it and skip this one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

The U2 song is great too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm learning a lot by googling these obscure movies. Apparently Welt am Draht was called World on a Wire in its English release and it's based on the same novel that The Thirteenth Floor (1999) was based on. Neat!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I saw that movie! Its soo bad, terrible effects, every dialog takes forever, scenes drag on too long, etc. The 13. Floor is superior in every regard, and both are pretty accurate to the book, so its basically a remake!