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Banned by corrupt mods at Political Memes for being anti-fascist (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 month ago by GhostFaceSkrilla to c/[email protected]
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I want to make this VERY clear. I am extremely progressive, way far left. Kamala Harris is the only sane choice, I'm voting for her. BUT we still have to try and get her to change bad policies like her promise to continue funding genocide. Apparently, that way of thinking will get you kicked out of certain echo chambers ran by corrupt mods like WrenFeathers and JonsJava. The first comment was in response to someone praising Biden like he doesn't also have Palestinian blood on his hands. And I apparently always have to reiterate that Dildo Tramp is 1000x worse and might actually kill us all by accident or on purpose.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, have you ever heard the meme phrase "you're not wrong, you're just an asshole"?

You have a very solid point, but you ruin it by rage baiting and being a jerk by over using inflammatory accusations.

You might get less blowback if you just chill and approach posting and comments from a stance that isn't essentially a rant.

I get it, shit is frustrating when we're forced to pick the lesser of two evils (in the political sense, I haven't seen any actual evil from the democrats up for executive office in my lifetime. But, I've also seen only one evil candidate on the republican ticket in that time either. Sociopathic disregard for human rights, yes; evil, no. And there is a difference). But you gotta pick the time and place for rants.

Even here, you're so deep into hyperbole that it approaches banworthy levels based on that alone

Like, we share the same basic outlook on the need to be realistic about what the democrat platform is, but damn. You went way too hard on the meme C/, and you're going a little too hard here. And I recognize that this C/ is inherently going to run heavy to venting spleen, so I'm not saying that lightly.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla -3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So, to summarize, an open and shut case of attitude policing. Being an asshole (according to some) in the delivery isn't grounds for a ban.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Depends on the C/. You gotta check the rules, do a vibe check. What works in one place won't work in others. You went to a meme spot and got all aggro. Of course you got banned. That's not the place for that kind of "attitude"

You gotta realize, any given C/ is not really public property. It's a curated space by nature. Whoever sets it up and runs it decides what kind of community they want to build. We don't have to like their rules, but if we don't, the answer is to bugger off and start/find one that we do like.

Some mods curate by consensus; the community plays a role in determining what the rules and norms are, but it's still not the same thing as a purely public space where anything goes.

We don't want every C/ to allow some aggressive prick coming in and ranting any time they want. If every C/ is like that, shit gets old fast.

Pick your battles, but more importantly, pick your battleground. Don't start shit on a community that's pretty clear about not name calling and being a douche. Find one that allows or encourages very aggressive language. There's plenty of them.

You're gonna do what you're gonna do. Just don't pretend you don't know you're being an asshole on purpose to start shit. And don't be surprised when you end up banned from places where you didn't bother to at least do a vibe check beforehand

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

If being an asshole forces your hand while it breaks the (very public and fair) rules, you're gonna have a bad time.

Sorry you're behaving this way

[–] WrenFeathers 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So, OP isn’t going to see this, because they have us blocked- but I gave them several chances to explain their accusations of our community being “controlled opposition.” They refused to do so.

So they got a temporary ban.

Then, they took it to private message to insult and accuse both of us, then block us. The ban then became permanent.

We did not in any way punish them for their views as you can see in our community- there are many different viewpoints. They were removed, then banned for breaking the rules.

Simple as that.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Keep lying out your ass, buddy. Need to repost pics up here cuz troll hijacking comment to try and push the evidence lower.

You banned me from the community and then took further steps to harrass me after I blocked you and went and cried to admins to get me banned from the instance. You should be banned for falsely reporting me and unjustly banning me because you didn’t like what I was saying, that had nothing to do with breaking rules.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No thanks, your attitude is more than enough evidence of the situation.

Have a great day!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

Picking sides based on personal feelings instead of the facts I see... typical. Be better.

[–] WrenFeathers 1 points 1 month ago

And who are you exactly?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Keep lying out your ass, buddy. You banned me from the community and then took further steps to harrass me after I blocked you and went and cried to admins to get me banned from the instance. You should be banned for falsely reporting me and unjustly banning me because you didn't like what I was saying, that had nothing to do with breaking rules.

How pathetic that you come here and lie while you thought you took away my voice to defend myself.

Youre trying to prove that you're not controlled opposition by banning people who make vague comments implying that you might be controlled opposition, and not because any rules were broken. Then come and admit that you did, in fact, ban someone for no legitimate reason.

Genius. People like you are dangerous, especially for public forums, when put in positions with any miniscule amount of power because you only abuse it.

[–] WrenFeathers 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wait. I harassed you? You got a comment removed for breaking the rules. Then banned for harassing mods by accusing us of things and being aggressive in private messages. Then you blocked us from being able to explain it to you.

You’re not the victim here buddy.

And now you’re doing the same thing using an alt account? This is going to end well for you.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The "friendly warning" was given 2 minutes after the first trigger happy mode already banned me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I'm locking this thread because I'm now bored by it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm so sorry that happened to you.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 2 points 1 month ago

Americans moralizing and calling everyone terrorists, while a trail of blood and brown bodies lays behind them is kinda hilarious in a fucked up way.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This was my response to the petty "gift wrap" comment. It was removed by the mod, along with my original comment.

[–] spankmonkey 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why do you think a mod is going to put up with you calling users/mods in the community controlled opposition?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Idk, by not being thinskinned controlled opposition?

[–] JonsJava 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I tried working with them, but they blocked me. I was investigating.

They won't see this, but I really was trying before I discovered I couldn't communicate with them.

I can't help if I can't talk to them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Lies. I was banned from your cesspool before you sent the "friendly warning". Then your other mod buddy took further steps to harrass me and went and cried to .world admins to get me banned from the instance for a false claim of PM abuse. I posted the PM messages here for everyone to see that is clearly a false accusation and just discrimination based on my views.

[–] JonsJava 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was working a report against you, and as I wrote my response, the other mod banned you. I tried reaching out to you, and you had blocked me.

Once someone blocks me, I stop investigating, as I can't work with them to resolve it.

No lies here.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So one mod can have an argument then go postal with bans when it doesnt go their way, while the other hasn't even had a chance to review anything or communicate with the other mod. Looks like some major issues at Politcal Memes. If you had reviewed it and found your co-mod completely wrong for the ban, then what?

Either way, WrenFeathers and his actions are a reflection on Political Memes as a whole, especially the vindictivness and lying about the private messages to get me banned from the instance, and I want nothing to with a community ran by mod(s) who discriminate and abuse their position.

[–] JonsJava 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The issue is that you cut me out before I had a chance to respond, and now you're calling me a corrupt mod.

What should I have done, when any avenue to reach out to you was gone?

Should you have been banned? No. A warning would have been enough, I think. And yes, a warning was justified. You had just said that anybody who down votes you is a fascist, when many people down vote people looking for a fight, and not just the message.

But again, you closed off any possibility of me working with you, and went running here to call me corrupt.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Should you have been banned? No. A warning would have been enough, I think. And yes, a warning was justified. You had just said that anybody who down votes you is a fascist, when many people down vote people looking for a fight, and not just the message.

I appreciate it, but it's still shouldn't even have been an issue suggesting people who disagreed must be fascist or zionist. I can be wrong there, but it's not grounds for censorship.

Look, it seems you have a more level head on your shoulders than your mate. Maybe have them removed if they discriminate, harass users and unjustly ban them not only from the community, but went further to get .world admins to ban me from the instance.

[–] JonsJava 4 points 1 month ago

I don't have direct contact with the admins any longer. I was actually out of the house yesterday on a date day with my wife when this all went down, and was trying to help from my phone. I'm sure the mod team will have a discussion on this soon.

[–] JonsJava 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, before you blocked me, you replied to my comment in a DM, as you had been banned ( I was still trying to figure out why you'd been banned at that point)

With respect, those words aren’t violating any rules. And if they get added to any rules that we can’t use those words, then that is extremely fascist by definition. Either way, I want nothing to do with your buddy. And the fact that this is even a thing that needs to be reviewed is part of the “crushing any voice of dissent against Isreal and their supporters”. I’m out

I tried responding that I was investigating, and that yes, calling dissenters fascists is bring uncivil. People don't become fascist because you call them that. Your attacks are reminiscent of Linkerbaan, who would call everybody that they disagreed with either a fascist or a Zionist. That's a bullshit insult.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yes, calling dissenters fascists is bring uncivil. People don’t become fascist because you call them that. Your attacks are reminiscent of Linkerbaan, who would call everybody that they disagreed with either a fascist or a Zionist. That’s a bullshit insult.

First off, I didn't call anybody a fascist directly. Secondly the fact that you deem it uncivilized to call out fascism is a major problem. Mod abuse is also mods using the "be civil" rule to ban people according to their own personal agenda. You may not agree with me, but it's not grounds for censorship and banning. Public forums are for free exchange of ideas, not banning people for using words you don't like, especially when it's not even profanity. (Not that profanity should be censored either)

If you don't want people calling others fascists, then put it explicity in the rules so everyone can see you have a problem with that, and what it implies having that as a rule.

When do you think it's ok to call people fascist or zionist, if not when the people referenced are directly tied to fascism and zionism? Rhetorical.

[–] JonsJava 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

When they are a fascist or Zionist.

Biden gave the terrorist state of Isreal $18 Billion in American tax dollars this year alone. That's $13 Billion more in a year than the average of $5billion per year to zionist terrorists for the last 75 years. (Including Trump administration) Both sides are just different degrees of evil. One is more quiet about it, the other is overt. That is what the monopolized 2 party system is for. To keep the same 2 evil groups in power indefinitely, while giving The People an illusion of choice. Both are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can take real action that will make a lasting impact. There is no fixing this grossly corrupt, broken system from the inside and repeating the same bullshit every 4 years. Edit: to be clear, you should still vote Harris because it's the lesser evil option in this fucked up circus. But denying reality makes you just as bad as air-headed trumpets. Both sides are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich, and we need to abolish this 2 party system, not make-up fantasies that one side is actually good. The downvoters are either Trump supporters and/or fascist. True leftists don't downvote facts. One thing is for certain in this sub, there are fascists masquerading as leftists. Those who don't know may want to look up "controlled opposition". Denial of facts is for right wingers and the rest of the fascists. We progressives don't do that. Nobody is debating the fact that Trump is 1000x worse and he also has and will keep funding isreal if elected again. That's how you can tell fascists and genocide deniers/appologists are the downvoters here. Here to downvote the truth and voices of dissent. The lack of support from fellow progressives on what should be resounding support shows how groupthink downvoting works to suppress voices of dissent. AGAIN, I'm voting for Harris, but we have to keep protesting and pressuring her to change bad policies, like the promise to continue funding genocide. Trump was never an option. 3rd party is same as voting for Trump. Go fuck yourselves and have a nice day.

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If you think I edited this comment, feel free to look at the original in the mod logs

This was my only issue, and again, I feel that a warning would have sufficed. Keep downvoting my comments, ~~but that won't make you less toxic~~.

EDIT: struck through the part where I vented. That wasn't right.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

0 rules broken. There's no "gotcha".

This was my only issue, and again, I feel that a warning would have sufficed. Keep downvoting my comments, but that won’t make you less toxic.

I didn't downvote your last one, but whatever.

You want to talk about toxic to a guy who had his account banned from the community, then the entire .world instance specifically for sharing their views that a corrupt mod didn't like, who then abused their power?

No offence, but I don't see you trying to make things right. Not that I want to deal with the corruption of Political Memes and .world anymore, anyways, but it's the principal that matters. Ciao

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 1 points 1 month ago

Boom. Thank you.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Feather dude with his petty comment applauding the accusation that the facts i presented in my initial comment were propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is the Mahjong still free?

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol! should I edit it out? Sorry about that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Nah, it's funny.

[–] WrenFeathers 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

What you’re all not seeing here. Is that the person that I was responding to a was pointing out that the comment OP made was exactly 5 paragraphs complaining about people who write up, and this is not a joke- five paragraphs of propaganda. 

“Feather dude….” was commenting on the fact that they made exactly five paragraphs that was nothing but both sides rhetoric. 

Essentially pointing out the fact that they called themselves out.

Hence the “some gifts wrap themselves” comment.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You mean what everyone can see, as that comment is the main one attached to this post way at the top. Good lord, and somebody let you mod... People like you are dangerous to Lemmy and other public forums.

[–] WrenFeathers 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’m guessing this is an alt account? Did you forget to switch?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your posts were pretty mild lol. The mod apparently loves genocide.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla -1 points 1 month ago

Thank you!