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Banned by corrupt mods at Political Memes for being anti-fascist (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago by GhostFaceSkrilla to c/[email protected]

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I want to make this VERY clear. I am extremely progressive, way far left. Kamala Harris is the only sane choice, I'm voting for her. BUT we still have to try and get her to change bad policies like her promise to continue funding genocide. Apparently, that way of thinking will get you kicked out of certain echo chambers ran by corrupt mods like WrenFeathers and JonsJava. The first comment was in response to someone praising Biden like he doesn't also have Palestinian blood on his hands. And I apparently always have to reiterate that Dildo Tramp is 1000x worse and might actually kill us all by accident or on purpose.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, have you ever heard the meme phrase "you're not wrong, you're just an asshole"?

You have a very solid point, but you ruin it by rage baiting and being a jerk by over using inflammatory accusations.

You might get less blowback if you just chill and approach posting and comments from a stance that isn't essentially a rant.

I get it, shit is frustrating when we're forced to pick the lesser of two evils (in the political sense, I haven't seen any actual evil from the democrats up for executive office in my lifetime. But, I've also seen only one evil candidate on the republican ticket in that time either. Sociopathic disregard for human rights, yes; evil, no. And there is a difference). But you gotta pick the time and place for rants.

Even here, you're so deep into hyperbole that it approaches banworthy levels based on that alone

Like, we share the same basic outlook on the need to be realistic about what the democrat platform is, but damn. You went way too hard on the meme C/, and you're going a little too hard here. And I recognize that this C/ is inherently going to run heavy to venting spleen, so I'm not saying that lightly.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So, to summarize, an open and shut case of attitude policing. Being an asshole (according to some) in the delivery isn't grounds for a ban.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Depends on the C/. You gotta check the rules, do a vibe check. What works in one place won't work in others. You went to a meme spot and got all aggro. Of course you got banned. That's not the place for that kind of "attitude"

You gotta realize, any given C/ is not really public property. It's a curated space by nature. Whoever sets it up and runs it decides what kind of community they want to build. We don't have to like their rules, but if we don't, the answer is to bugger off and start/find one that we do like.

Some mods curate by consensus; the community plays a role in determining what the rules and norms are, but it's still not the same thing as a purely public space where anything goes.

We don't want every C/ to allow some aggressive prick coming in and ranting any time they want. If every C/ is like that, shit gets old fast.

Pick your battles, but more importantly, pick your battleground. Don't start shit on a community that's pretty clear about not name calling and being a douche. Find one that allows or encourages very aggressive language. There's plenty of them.

You're gonna do what you're gonna do. Just don't pretend you don't know you're being an asshole on purpose to start shit. And don't be surprised when you end up banned from places where you didn't bother to at least do a vibe check beforehand

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

If being an asshole forces your hand while it breaks the (very public and fair) rules, you're gonna have a bad time.

Sorry you're behaving this way

[–] WrenFeathers 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So, OP isn’t going to see this, because they have us blocked- but I gave them several chances to explain their accusations of our community being “controlled opposition.” They refused to do so.

So they got a temporary ban.

Then, they took it to private message to insult and accuse both of us, then block us. The ban then became permanent.

We did not in any way punish them for their views as you can see in our community- there are many different viewpoints. They were removed, then banned for breaking the rules.

Simple as that.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The "friendly warning" was given 2 minutes after the first trigger happy mode already banned me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I'm locking this thread because I'm now bored by it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I'm so sorry that happened to you.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 2 points 2 months ago

Americans moralizing and calling everyone terrorists, while a trail of blood and brown bodies lays behind them is kinda hilarious in a fucked up way.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This was my response to the petty "gift wrap" comment. It was removed by the mod, along with my original comment.

[–] spankmonkey 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why do you think a mod is going to put up with you calling users/mods in the community controlled opposition?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Idk, by not being thinskinned controlled opposition?

[–] JonsJava 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I tried working with them, but they blocked me. I was investigating.

They won't see this, but I really was trying before I discovered I couldn't communicate with them.

I can't help if I can't talk to them.

[+] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

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[–] JonsJava 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was working a report against you, and as I wrote my response, the other mod banned you. I tried reaching out to you, and you had blocked me.

Once someone blocks me, I stop investigating, as I can't work with them to resolve it.

No lies here.

[+] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] JonsJava 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The issue is that you cut me out before I had a chance to respond, and now you're calling me a corrupt mod.

What should I have done, when any avenue to reach out to you was gone?

Should you have been banned? No. A warning would have been enough, I think. And yes, a warning was justified. You had just said that anybody who down votes you is a fascist, when many people down vote people looking for a fight, and not just the message.

But again, you closed off any possibility of me working with you, and went running here to call me corrupt.

[–] JonsJava 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, before you blocked me, you replied to my comment in a DM, as you had been banned ( I was still trying to figure out why you'd been banned at that point)

With respect, those words aren’t violating any rules. And if they get added to any rules that we can’t use those words, then that is extremely fascist by definition. Either way, I want nothing to do with your buddy. And the fact that this is even a thing that needs to be reviewed is part of the “crushing any voice of dissent against Isreal and their supporters”. I’m out

I tried responding that I was investigating, and that yes, calling dissenters fascists is bring uncivil. People don't become fascist because you call them that. Your attacks are reminiscent of Linkerbaan, who would call everybody that they disagreed with either a fascist or a Zionist. That's a bullshit insult.

[+] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] JonsJava 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

When they are a fascist or Zionist.

Biden gave the terrorist state of Isreal $18 Billion in American tax dollars this year alone. That's $13 Billion more in a year than the average of $5billion per year to zionist terrorists for the last 75 years. (Including Trump administration) Both sides are just different degrees of evil. One is more quiet about it, the other is overt. That is what the monopolized 2 party system is for. To keep the same 2 evil groups in power indefinitely, while giving The People an illusion of choice. Both are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can take real action that will make a lasting impact. There is no fixing this grossly corrupt, broken system from the inside and repeating the same bullshit every 4 years. Edit: to be clear, you should still vote Harris because it's the lesser evil option in this fucked up circus. But denying reality makes you just as bad as air-headed trumpets. Both sides are owned by the same corporate interests and mega-rich, and we need to abolish this 2 party system, not make-up fantasies that one side is actually good. The downvoters are either Trump supporters and/or fascist. True leftists don't downvote facts. One thing is for certain in this sub, there are fascists masquerading as leftists. Those who don't know may want to look up "controlled opposition". Denial of facts is for right wingers and the rest of the fascists. We progressives don't do that. Nobody is debating the fact that Trump is 1000x worse and he also has and will keep funding isreal if elected again. That's how you can tell fascists and genocide deniers/appologists are the downvoters here. Here to downvote the truth and voices of dissent. The lack of support from fellow progressives on what should be resounding support shows how groupthink downvoting works to suppress voices of dissent. AGAIN, I'm voting for Harris, but we have to keep protesting and pressuring her to change bad policies, like the promise to continue funding genocide. Trump was never an option. 3rd party is same as voting for Trump. Go fuck yourselves and have a nice day.

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If you think I edited this comment, feel free to look at the original in the mod logs

This was my only issue, and again, I feel that a warning would have sufficed. Keep downvoting my comments, ~~but that won't make you less toxic~~.

EDIT: struck through the part where I vented. That wasn't right.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 1 points 2 months ago

Boom. Thank you.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Feather dude with his petty comment applauding the accusation that the facts i presented in my initial comment were propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is the Mahjong still free?

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol! should I edit it out? Sorry about that

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Nah, it's funny.

[–] WrenFeathers 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What you’re all not seeing here. Is that the person that I was responding to a was pointing out that the comment OP made was exactly 5 paragraphs complaining about people who write up, and this is not a joke- five paragraphs of propaganda.

“Feather dude….” was commenting on the fact that they made exactly five paragraphs that was nothing but both sides rhetoric.

Essentially pointing out the fact that they called themselves out.

Hence the “some gifts wrap themselves” comment.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your posts were pretty mild lol. The mod apparently loves genocide.

[–] GhostFaceSkrilla -1 points 2 months ago

Thank you!