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Tonight I am about to install endless os for my non technical partner. Do you think that is a good idea? Would you do the same?

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If she's coming from Windows, Mint is a much better choice with Cinnamon

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Has been using Ubuntu for a while but kept destroying it. I aim at a stable base with modern applications.

[–] eruchitanda 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe you should give a try to an immutable OS like Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite.

They are very hard to break.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for your suggestions. Silverblue might be a good idea. I am more in the Debian based camp but maybe it is time for a change. I think it gets major updates as often as fedora "normal". This might not be ideal for us though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you like Debian, then just wait for Vanilla OS. The next big release (a open beta should be out soon) will switch from Ubuntu to Debian. I will switch instantly if there's a KDE variant.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Wow, that looks very promising. Will keep that in mind. Thanks for the tip.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yes. Is in the same camp as Silverblue and Aeon, except Debian.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Then the distro doesn't matter that much. You shouk go for either Snaps or Flatpaks for applications as they won't break the system even if something catastrophic happens.

Personally I'd go for distros with great deal of support (Pop, Fedora and Mint) and put Flathub as the main source in the respective app stores. Smaller distros tend to have more issues that requires some troubleshooting at times.

Check how does she uses Ubuntu first though, if she's using the Canonical's additions to Gnome a lot, she'll have a horrible time with vanilla Gnome as it's pretty barebones, that'll rule out any distro with vanilla Gnome such as Fedora. Trust me, you don't want to be babysitting your partners computer.

[–] InverseParallax 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ok, I'm normally against this, but this sounds like a job for nix.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nice idea. I`d love to love nix but I think it is too involved for me. Maybe I have to try again but I need results tonight, so this might be for another time.

[–] InverseParallax 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's not hard, but definitely not my cup of tea.

But if you want something nearly impossible to break you can't beat immutable.

Fedora silver...something works too.

[–] CaptainStrider 13 points 2 years ago

Eh probably not. Linux Mint or Pop OS would be a better starter distro for someone from a non technical background.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It does not require an internet connection to use!

It's messed up that that's a selling point.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't know anthing about EndlessOS, but Zorin tends to be a good Windows substitute.

[–] GustavoM 4 points 2 years ago

Seconded. ZorinOS was my very first Linux distro that "held my hand" for a while.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks, will look into it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s worth a shot. Non-technical users are it’s target demographic.

I would pick something immutable like this. Non-technical users aren’t going to get under the hood and tinker, like many Linux users do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Turns out she needs a bit of proprietary software (pixum for photo books) that I could not install on EndlessOS. So I had to change course and installed pop os. So far I am pleasantly suprised. Even though I thought I would not like it, their take on GNOME makes sense to me. Tiling is fun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Pop is great, my only complaint is their posterized stylized default backgrounds. It is their look, but might be a turnoff for some wanting a more polished pro look like ElementaryOS default.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

PopOS is currently developing their own spin on a immutable OS, but that's still a long way from shipping to users. I'm curious, if other distros broke, why would it be different with current PopOS?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did not know this. Immutable Ubuntu plus flatpack sounds awesome. Not sure what to think about their plans to fork cosmic from GNOME.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm really looking forward to their implementation of tiling. If they manage to design a desktop which stays mostly out of the way while delivering 1st class tiling I'll give it a shot. Gnome does have extensions, but they just don't feel right to me (buggy etc), unlike what the likes of sway and hyprland deliver.

It would've been great if they contributed to Gnome instead, but there was some bad blood between them iirc. And it's open whether it'll be another Unity and how well other distros implement it.

[–] kanzalibrary 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just trying Q4OS Aquarius KDE (I love KDE btw) with "Pure Profile" install yesterday, and I'll say clearly that nothing can beats their minimalist approach on system as far as I distro hopping on many Linux. The satisfied feeling with start from really pure system is so pure joy..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Need Tod check that out. Never heard of it. I myself run KDE as part of the mighty garuda Linux. Pure is not the word I would use to describe garuda though.

[–] kanzalibrary 1 points 2 years ago

Try it on VM. if you seeking slim minimalist linux with KDE out of the box, then Q4OS is the endgame. Garuda do too much custom for me, even debian vanilla with KDE is still bloat..