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    [–] RustyNova 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    As up to date as Debian

    (Obviously a joke, Debian is great)

    [–] InverseParallax 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Debian is caught up or even past Ubuntu nowadays, shits flipped fr, yo.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

    Depends what/when you mean.

    Debian 12 was released in June and has some newer, and some older, packages than Ubuntu 24.04. For example Ubuntu has LibreOffice 24.2.2 while Debian has 7.4.5.

    Debian testing currently has a similar distribution to Ubuntu 24.10, though over the next 6 months it'll pull ahead of that, but Ubuntu 25.04 will likely have on average newer packages than Debian testing until its beta freeze.

    Debian unstable has always had newer packages than the others.

    [–] RustyNova 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Recent update big update or just good maintenance?

    [–] InverseParallax 1 points 2 months ago

    Think it's been maintenance, but the real difference is packages aren't ancient like they used to be, they're mostly up to date.

    Stuff like the desktop are basically generic compared to Ubuntu's customization, but they moved to wayland, pipewire, all that stuff which is violent radical by past debian standards.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

    Can't wait for Linux 8.1 Home Edition

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    That's how I started using Linux


    big book with CD, I think it was "RedHat Linux Secrets 5.4" or something. 2.0 or 2.2 kernel.

    Honestly, it was fantastic. And almost all of it is still relevant today. (Some of the stuff on xfree86 and the chap/pap stuff not so much.)

    But it gave a really solid (IMHO) intro to a Linux/*NIX system, a solid overview of coreutils, etc. And while LILO has been long replaced, and afaik /sys didn't exist at the time, it formed a good foundation.

    I'll refrain from commenting on any init system changes that have taken place since then.

    [–] Rednax 4 points 2 months ago

    The RHEL 7 book from OP is most certainly still relevant. For example, my department at work has not managed to switch over to the brand new RHEL 8 machines just yet.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I started with a book too. But it was 1996, and the distro was Yggdrasil, and the book was a printout of all the man pages. I used it for a Prolog programming course, so that I didn't have to go to the university and use their computers. Of course, then I discovered the joys of different flavors of Prolog.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    Conectiva for me. More than a mere printout of man pages though, it was actually translated documentation into Portuguese and a really useful intro book.

    [–] univers3man 17 points 2 months ago

    Knoppix. Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

    [–] friend_of_satan 9 points 2 months ago

    Let me guess. You bought those at Borders? The one next to Starbucks and Chipotle? That was a great bookstore.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I've been wanting to get an old book like this and go through the install process of some OG linux just for the learning experience.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

    You want to learn... Suffering?

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    With Slackware, you could probably just follow it step by step.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    I had this book... Threw it out of years ago because every time I moved house, it was a pain to pack and deal with lots of boxes of geeky books.

    Besides, most of it is outdated now. New users probably should learn systemd rather than startup scripts.

    [–] InverseParallax 2 points 2 months ago

    New users probably should learn systemd rather than startup scripts.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I was at a used bookshop the other day and found the same Caldera Open Linux 2.2 book and cd that I used to install my first linux distro on a pc. Man that was exciting!

    [–] SpaceNoodle 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    The exact same book, or just another copy?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    Another copy. Would have been crazy if it was the exact copy I had.

    [–] badbytes -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Just need to find a CD reader, and you are golden. 🤪

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    people actually, DONT own one?