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I suspect that this is the direct result of AI generated content just overwhelming any real content.

I tried ddg, google, bing, quant, and none of them really help me find information I want these days.

Perplexity seems to work but I don't like the idea of AI giving me "facts" since they are mostly based on other AI posts

ETA: someone suggested SearXNG and after using it a bit it seems to be much better compared to ddg and the rest.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Brave has their own search. There is also meta searches such as metager, searx and mojeek. I hope more search engines enter the market

[–] alekwithak -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I just use chatGPT to search now. I have a super-prompt in its memory telling it how to search and to cite sources and provide links and it is so much better than Google even though it's using AI, too.

*The future is now, old men!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago

Funnily enough I've found using an LLM to parce the data, then cross checking it's source as well as my own sources to be superior to previous searches.

It's annoying to change the way you just mindlessly search, but if you're upset by it just mindlessly search, end of discussion.

[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 week ago (36 children)

they're pretty bad, but ddg at least feels like I'm getting actual results.

[–] finitebanjo 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

DDG often gives me results for individual words of the search but not results for all of the words in that order for which to have contextually relevant results.

I often find myself forced to brave the shitshow that is google search.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

have you tried the duck assist thing yet?

If you're trying to talk to the search engine more like a chat assistant, that sort of response might be what you're looking for.

[–] finitebanjo 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Fuck Duck Assist all my homies hate Duck Assist and I keep having to turn it back off again.

Whoever made it should get cancer and not have their children show up or call them back.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

haha, whaaat why?

I just saw it for the first time today, it seems to mostly quote incredible sources rather than amalgamating responses.

you got some issues huh, poor fella?

[–] finitebanjo -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings and made you want to defend an LLM that approves copy pasted wikipedia snippets, but maybe you should go eat some ass?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"I'm sorry I hurt your feelings"

I feel only pity for you.

reading your comments is like watching a diseased guinea pig nibble on its own scabs.

"an LLM that approves copy pasted wikipedia snippets"

duckduckgo's llm tool offers relevant information from credible sources.

that is good.

Good luck unbunching those panties.

[–] finitebanjo 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Too many big words for you?

I'm sincerely glad they make you laugh.

[–] finitebanjo 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You literally tried to argue against the DDG CEO's statement about how DuckAssist works lol

Too many big words for you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"You literally tried to argue against the DDG CEO's statement about how DuckAssist works lol"

you clearly need help.

The statement you provided says exactly what I said in greater detail, that the duck duck Go llm verifies apparently factual statements with credible third-party sources, you are literally providing further evidence for my comments while proving yourself incorrect.

it is funny watching you proving yourself wrong, though, and you should keep doing it.

I hope you find another source that further supports what I'm saying while completely backfiring against your proud ignorance.

[–] finitebanjo 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

yep, just like that.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 week ago

It's not just you. Search got worse, and it did so intentionally.

Ed Zitron lays it all out really well, with all the receipts, but the basic version is this; Google has an incentive to make you search more for the same things, because then they can show you more ads. And google is, first and foremost, an ad delivery company. Every "product" they own is an ad delivery vehicle. It's not just AI slop that made search based; Google made search bad, and everyone else followed suit, to a greater or lesser degree.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 week ago (32 children)

I'm very happy with kagi at the moment. Just crossed one year using it as my main search engine last week and don't see why I would go back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is it really $108/year good though for a single person (based on the tier that makes sense for me)? Just curious what other search engines you’ve used or tried and what features set it apart to make it worth spending the money on.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they started to play with AI too :-(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It was disabled by default on my account I think

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