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I hope this project gets more contributors to help make it as good or better than Newpipe. Written in Dart using Flutter can allow it to be compiled for Android, iOS and desktop

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Not exactly a replacement because it uses the Piped API instead of parsing everything locally like in Newpipe.

[–] trymeout 1 points 1 hour ago

True. I did make a feature request to have the Newpipe Extractor in the app

https://github.com/mu-fazil-vk/FluxTube/issues/44

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

OK but why the awful A.I. art? At this point, just put nothing.

[–] Shady_Shiroe 3 points 18 hours ago

Agreed, I like flutter, but that AI image just turns me away from this project so much

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

how mqny youtubk ckients do we have now?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's wrong with Newpipe?

[–] Neon 2 points 6 hours ago

IMO:

The Frontend is the Problem. I borderline don't even want to use it anymore.

Also it'd be nice if it somehow synced with my laptop

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not the new. No replacement . Not best . People learn there should be always options.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What would make it better than NewPipe?

[–] trymeout 1 points 1 hour ago

It can be cross platform. On mobile and desktop

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why do we need a new Newpipe? There is also LibreTube already which imo is already better than NewPipe as it for example has sponserblock built-in (which NewPipe refused to add).

[–] trymeout 1 points 1 hour ago

None of the are available for both mobile and desktop

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

Tubular is Newpipe with Sponsorblock built in.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Libretube is not working since end of July, no instance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Eh I self-host and that works just fine, I haven't noticed any breakage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Newpipe, too (if you're using protective like VPN or Tor). It's juste the end of private YouTube streaming for now, maybe we'll find something...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I still use YouTube with newpipe. You just need to findan VPN exit server where there's currently not a ton of users watching YouTube. It usually only takes about 3 tries for me in mullvad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm running Newpipe through Proton VPN, working as of today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Okay going to retry, but trough Tor I can prove that it's not working

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Libretube still works pretty good if you self-host your own private instance. You still need to use HLS though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yep ! No-ads, no-sponsor, no-shit.

You even don't need to self-host, just disable piped proxy, enable local extraction, use HLS and a good VPN.

Sure it's not as anonymous and sometime I need to disable my VPN, but that's only temporarily, until they find a new loophole in youtoube's api.

That's not piped nor invidious backend's fault, just YouTube doing his cat and mouse thing...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

iOS !!! Yayyyy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Why would I use this over Vanced?

Also do you know of any YouTube client that allows me to group subscriptions? Having all my subscriptions in 1 giant feed is pretty useless since I'm usually looking for a specific type of video. I haven't found any client yet that allows subscription groups, which seems crazy.

[–] trymeout 1 points 1 hour ago

Cross platform

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Well, newpipe has channel groups for quite a while now.

Screenshot_20241001-114916_Tubular~2

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Screenshot_20241001-114955_Tubular~2

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Revanced and newpipe fill different roles while covering a lot of the same functionality. Revanced is still the YouTube app ... Just modified.

There's a lot of ppl that don't want the actual yt app for everything that it is. Also this being Lemmy there's a lot of users looking for open source alternatives for all apps.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Alright this inspired me to actually look into new pipe, which I hadn't used before. Turns out I'm an idiot because it has exactly this feature.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Grayjay you can group your subscriptions. https://grayjay.app/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

isn't grayjay still proprietary?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it used to be "see source, but no touch source" when it came out, and now it's "see source, touch source, no sell source". Not exactly proprietary, not free as in freedom. Kinda gray zone here, pun intended

[–] trymeout 1 points 1 hour ago

I knew of Grayjay but did not know it was open source now. A lot of the app is written in Kotlin which is promising for cross platform

[–] Neon 2 points 6 hours ago

"See source, no touch source" is called source-available.

"touch source, no sell source" is a new phenomenom and there are multiple names to describe this. I personally like "fair-source" though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just not necessarily FOSS. The code is available and open to a certain limit. Not free however.

https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE.md

[–] Nonononoki 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

no it isnt, its source available, there is a very big difference

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not in the usual sense, because you can still fully fork it, use it, modify it and redistribute it freely like a FOSS software.

You may use or modify the software only for non-commercial purposes such as personal use for research, experiment, and testing for the benefit of public knowledge, personal study, private entertainment, hobby projects, amateur pursuits, or religious observance, all without any anticipated commercial application. You may distribute the software or provide it to others only if you do so free of charge for non-commercial purposes.

The only limitation which make it non-free is :

Notwithstanding the above, you may not remove or obscure any functionality in the software related to payment to the Licensor in any copy you distribute to others.

I don't really understand if it "prevent you" to remove and/or prevent the modification of the donation to FUTO part of the code. Should not prevent you from adding yours on top of it (As in, adding a prompt as in "If you want to do donate to the project, you can donate to the original app owner (DONATE TO FUTO) or the maintainer of the fork you are using (DONATE TO THE MAINTAINER).) And the obvious limitation of making derivative work of it, non-free of course.

Also, they do reserve themselves rights to abrodge the license for those who abridge it, which i don't know how legally useful it may be, for license violations compared to protecting the GPL licenses from violations for example.

tl;dr : Seems FOSS to me, as long as :

  • You don't try to make it non-free
  • You don't remove the donation to FUTO part of the app
[–] Nonononoki 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

All the parts you quoted make it non-free. Free software allows you to use and modify it for any purpose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

My bad. Yep, you are correct. I thought the GPL actually prevented you to sell compiled version of a GPL FOSS software (Outside of the original maintainer) but it seems it isn't compared to this one which force you to keep it free. There's also limitations on what you can remove so yep. Non-free. Seemed a bit Counter-intuitive to me in the first part. https://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.en.html

I should probably suggest the GNU Foundation to check this license to compare it, as I often see question of FUTO software license online.