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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (6 children)

In all seriousness, what kind of stuff could actually have you be locked up on a mental facility in the US?

[–] mhague 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you're poor then you're basically mentally ill.

I couldn't afford anxiety/depression meds and went to a professional. Literally told me, almost verbatim, "I don't think you're a danger to anyone or yourself, but I'm going to put you down as 5150. After a holding period you'll get medicine."

Thought about it, decided no as I didn't want to screw up my background checks just to get medicine.

"Well I already put it down."

I didn't want to fight my way through two guards (though I wish I would have tried) so I had to go through a shitty, depressing, and degrading experience. And I couldn't afford the medicine they prescribed me. The entire point of lying to game the system, the entire point of fucking me while acting like a savior, and I couldn't even get medicine.

So yeah. Tagged as being a danger to myself or others because I didn't have money to buy medicine... and a mental health professional thought she figured out a lifehack and tested it on a real person.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Ideally, when a medical professional genuinely thinks you are an immediate danger to yourself or others.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you're a danger to yourself or others, police can detain you with an APOWW, which stands for Apprehension by a Police Officer Without a Warrant, and hold you until you are deemed safe at an "appropriate" mental health facility. (Most of these places are horrible tbh. Usually filled with the homeless and genuinely mentally ill/unwell people). Back in my EMS days I would dread running calls to these places.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can confirm. Currently in EMS, we call them Baker Acts in my neck of the woods

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds 4 points 1 month ago

Yup. Had to Baker Act my mom once for a suicide attempt actually. It really fuckin sucked.

[–] undergroundoverground 6 points 1 month ago

Harm to yourself and or others is usually the red line, in most countries.

[–] xpinchx 4 points 1 month ago

I am not an expert, but based on TV the general criteria is if you're a harm to yourself or others (or self commit).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Getting to suicidey I imagine.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I guess this really depends on where you live. Germany at least has rather strong protections for patients. We had a case last year in our town of a woman with ~40 suicide attempts who would still not be held against her will (German source). So please get help if you feel you need it (and get informed about your rights).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Going to the silly House aren't we?

[–] TriflingToad 1 points 1 month ago

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