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Georgian trans model murdered after parliament passes βanti-LGBTQ+β law
(www.theguardian.com)
Fucking sad. Just baffles me how some people can be so intolerant.
this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2024
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Right. And usually the loudest ones are hidden LGBTQ+ cowards.
Edit: To make it clearer - what @[email protected] said: "that most of these super intolerant people are actually closeted LGBTQ+ people that are ashamed of themselves. E.g. the at this point almost common story of an anti-LGBT politician seen at a gay orgy or whatever." Thanks for downvoting spree, though :)
The fuck are you on?
I'm not sure why they were downvoted so much - the way I read it, they mean that most of these super intolerant people are actually closeted LGBTQ+ people that are ashamed of themselves. E.g. the at this point almost common story of an anti-LGBT politician seen at a gay orgy or whatever. Or did I misunderstand what they meant?
It's just extra hypocritical in that sense.
What this comment does though, is put this murder in the context of closeted LGBTQ people. I.e., (possibly accidentally) making it seem as if LGBTQ people are just killing each other, although the murder is not solved yet.
Right, I see how you could read it like that but I read it more as a response to the intolerant people I mentioned and not really a comment on who did the murder in this case. Text-only communication is hard and often ambiguous like this but I like to at least give people the benefit of the doubt.
Just baffles me how some people can be so intolerant.
Yes, it was a reply to your comment that literally says "Just baffles me how some people can be so intolerant." How is my comment not understood that it relates to those people, I don't know.
There's a wider context here, which is that this thread is under the article about the murder of a trans activist. There are plenty of anti-LGBTQ+ people who are not self-denying LGBTQ+ people and there are plenty of anti-LGBTQ crimes which are not perpetrated by self-denying LGBTQ+ people.
If you'd put your comment under the Hungarian-priest-turns-out-to-be-gay article, it'd have been ~fine. If you'd put this under article about Georgia passing this law, it would have been so-so. Here, it's not a great fit.
Lastly, this is human communication, there are bound to misunderstandings and different interpretations of things. Β―\(γ)/Β―
Sure, misunderstandings happen. However my comment was a reply, not a comment under the post. No big deal anyway.
Sometimes the bandwagon goes down the wrong trail and it's hard to get back. Don't worry, happens to everyone sometimes. Just be glad it's just random internet strangers and meaningless internet points :)
No, you got it right. Seems like combination of a, perhaps, not exactly clear message and trigger happy downvoters results in ... downvoting.
if it weren't for the word "parliament" this would be a prominent Georgia or Georgia headline
No, wouldn't be news.