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A well-known Georgian transgender model has been murdered, local officials said, a day after the government passed legislation that will impose sweeping curbs on LGBTQ+ rights in the country.

“There is a direct correlation between the use of hate speech in politics and hate crimes,” the Social Justice Center, a Tbilisi-based human rights group, said in its statement reacting to the murder.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What this comment does though, is put this murder in the context of closeted LGBTQ people. I.e., (possibly accidentally) making it seem as if LGBTQ people are just killing each other, although the murder is not solved yet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right, I see how you could read it like that but I read it more as a response to the intolerant people I mentioned and not really a comment on who did the murder in this case. Text-only communication is hard and often ambiguous like this but I like to at least give people the benefit of the doubt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just baffles me how some people can be so intolerant.

Yes, it was a reply to your comment that literally says "Just baffles me how some people can be so intolerant." How is my comment not understood that it relates to those people, I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There's a wider context here, which is that this thread is under the article about the murder of a trans activist. There are plenty of anti-LGBTQ+ people who are not self-denying LGBTQ+ people and there are plenty of anti-LGBTQ crimes which are not perpetrated by self-denying LGBTQ+ people.

If you'd put your comment under the Hungarian-priest-turns-out-to-be-gay article, it'd have been ~fine. If you'd put this under article about Georgia passing this law, it would have been so-so. Here, it's not a great fit.

Lastly, this is human communication, there are bound to misunderstandings and different interpretations of things. ¯\(ツ)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Sure, misunderstandings happen. However my comment was a reply, not a comment under the post. No big deal anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sometimes the bandwagon goes down the wrong trail and it's hard to get back. Don't worry, happens to everyone sometimes. Just be glad it's just random internet strangers and meaningless internet points :)