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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by PugJesus to c/politicalmemes
 

Also, in b4 fascists start pretending like the Stalinist bootlicker Thalmann hadn't spent the past half-decade backstabbing and burning bridges with the SPD, which had previously been cooperative with the KPD after the establishment of the Weimar Republic.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Correct.

"Voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil."

You have a duty to ensure the least amount of harm is being done.

Saving three people out of ten is better than saving zero out of ten.

[–] JustAnotherKay 10 points 1 day ago

Rewatched the divergent series recently, in the last movie there's an exchange between two characters that goes roughly like this:

"If you only had enough to save one, would you choose a sick, dying old man or the young boy?"

"I wouldn't choose"

"Oh good, now they're both dead."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Reading though the comments, I have to say… I’m so glad you have the tolerance to argue with these kids about this. I bow before your seemingly infinite patience.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Accelerationism is one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard of.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

No no no, I'm sure we can build a better government from the ashes of our current resources, which we burnt down while gaining nothing in the process /s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Right, because if there was enough support for your stance that you could ensure it would prevail in the post collapse struggle, then you could almost certainly achieve it with democratic support instead.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean it is like wanting the cold war to end with nuclear weapons. No one wins and we all die. Even the preppers who built bunkers back then would not survive for long, and this is assuming they survive the initial blasts.

[–] samus12345 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They should have used a genuine Vault-Tec™ vault!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

At this point, I'm all for Plan D

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like Accelerationism. It's stupid, but not fascism.

[–] PugJesus 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Stalinists are absolutely fascists. Accelerationism is just the preferred technique.

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Collapse theory is fundamentally a privileged take. It is a position that is impossible to accept without either the assumption that you'd survive, or the assumption that the disproportionate harm to the disadvantaged is worth it for your end goals even if you die too.

Either way, you're declaring that your paradise can and should be built over the bodies of the disemprivileged, and are automatically wrong and a horrible person for even being able to think that way.

You are the exact kind of monster that built the colonialist model of Israel, just insisting that your nation built on the bodies of the innocent will be a more moral one somehow.

[–] recklessengagement 4 points 2 days ago

Excellent take. It is a clear indicator of an individualist mindset.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Wonderful comment. I’ve been thinking similarly for a while. Nice too see it put out there.

[–] dance_ninja 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Collapse theory is fundamentally a privileged take

It's definitely a white-male-privileged take in the US.

It also just doesn't make sense from a logistics sense -- You want to address the current set of big problems by ... creating more big problems to address with the same/less resources and organizations? Some that are more time sensitive than others?

[–] TrueStoryBob 10 points 2 days ago

You want to address the current set of big problems by ... creating more big problems to address.

Right. There's already a shitload of big problems.

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[–] jordanlund 58 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Then Thälmann was arrested and shot and killed in a death camp 11 years later...

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