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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

PG&E is very blatantly trying to crush EV adoption in California. They're even advertising their EV plan by comparing their pricing to buying gas at the pump.

$0.65/kWh during peak is probably the highest power cost in the whole US, even including Hawaii.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

That rate is insane. I live in the PNW in a high cost of living area and drive an EV. I don't even see charging stations, which during peak times often charge five times or higher the market rates for energy up here, charging that much.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

At this point the regulators are totally in the hands of PG&E. They are getting everything they want. The cost of power here in California is insane. My mother is paying over $300 a month. We are being robbed.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

All while burning huge swaths of land every year as well as pleading guilty to manslaughter for the deadliest fire of CA history.

We’ve got so many large fires raging that inspectors are spread thin; but I’d put good money on a few being caused by poor infrastructure maintained by PG&E

[–] mesamunefire 14 points 2 months ago

"This latest rate hike comes as PG&E stopped accepting applications for its REACH relief program due to overwhelming demand."

[–] Hope 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm on municipal power, by my MIL 10 minutes away is on PG&E and her rate is easily 4x mine, it's absurd. She doesn't even have AC and her power bill is over $800/mo!

[–] karpintero 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's crazy. Is solar an option? It's close to $120/mo depending on how many panels you get and the terms of the loan/lease. And if you buy you get up to a 1/3 of it back in tax credit (assuming you owe enough).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You normally have to own your home and it takes well over 10 years before you recover the cost of purchasing solar. Home ownership is out of reach for many in California.

[–] karpintero 6 points 2 months ago

True, Net Metering 3.0 made paybacks longer, although if you apply your tax credits to your loan it's still reasonable. Though I'd point out that there's no break even point if you're just paying PG&E. With a solar loan, your payments are locked in vs subject to rate increases and after its paid off, you essentially eliminate your electric bill. I'm just speaking from personal experience though so YMMV.

I agree that housing affordability is difficult in CA and that renters have less options in this regard.

[–] Raiderkev 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Who the fuck keeps approving these? We already have the highest rates in the country ffs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I believe this clip could explain that.

[–] Raiderkev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

We found out we could by psychological validation on the internet... you're fired.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

How long before PG&E blames the rate increases on all those people with solar panels.

Oh wait, they already did.

[–] sudo42 4 points 2 months ago

Wasn’t one of PG&E’s recent justifications for an anti-solar maneuver “solar isn’t fair to poor people”?

Exorbitant electric bills are fair to poor people I guess?