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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Xitter is a haven for Nazis because Musk deliberately made it that way. That makes Musk a Nazi in my book.

[–] LordWiggle 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So, let me explain how nazies work. The nazies don't want to be seen as nazies, so they claim their opponents are nazies. Putin does this, Israel, Trump, Musk, right wing politicians all over Europe, etc. They are all fascists or national socialists yet they claim they are fighting nazies or are a victim of nazies.

It's like a plumber who keeps screaming an electrician is a plumber, and to prove his point he's going to break into the electrician's house to fix his plumbing while murdering his family.

[–] HornedMeatBeast 12 points 1 month ago
[–] sanctimoniousn0rth 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

From the article:

“Elon Musk’s had more positions on free speech than the Kama Sutra,” Shorten said in an interview with Australian radio.

Hahahah

[–] T00l_shed -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is to say 0, as, to my knowledge the Kama Sutra says exactly nothing on free speech.

[–] Kidding_me 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think that the joke flew right over your head

[–] T00l_shed 2 points 1 month ago

I misunderstood, I thought Shorten was making a argument for musk.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd love for this clown to explain how fines for spreading disinformation = fascism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Because the fascists are the ones who will tell you which truths are “disinformation.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depends on what the misinformation is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Depends on how they define and decide what "misinformation" is.

[–] nifty 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

All media companies need to be held responsible for not doing due diligence against the spread of disinformation. Disinformation is currently the main tool enemies of different nations are using against each other

Edit to make the statement more general

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

While I agree there's a responsibility for combating misinfo, you can't rely on nation states to decide what is misinfo. Authoritarians do and will abuse this to silence criticism of their regimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What you see and don't see on social media is already decided by nation states. It's just countries like Russia, China, and Iran do it covertly.

They can push the things they want to the top of the algorithms with a relatively small (for a nation state) amount of resources. Sure they usually don't outright ban content (but that can happen too by spamming abuse reports) but they can effectively shadow ban people by simply promoting everything except for the things they don't like and use bot spam to do the social media equivalent of signal jamming.

And of course (as we've seen with Musk) the leadership of social media companies can be influenced (by a combo of same the misinformation they use on everyone else + money) and made into assets for nation states. This allows them to have some influence over who gets officially blocked on social media.

Yes it's not ideal to have nation states influencing speech, the current is to have foreign adversary nation states influencing speech. The choice is between having democracies having a de jure influence on social media or have authoritarian countries have a de facto influence on social media.

[–] AngryCommieKender 1 points 1 month ago

Does anyone else get the feeling that our leaders have been playing way too much Stellaris, Rimworld, and EvE?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

they passed a law banning TikTok, why is X any better?

[–] ThoranTW 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is about Australia, TikTok is not banned here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

waoh, free speech....

[–] OhmsLawn 8 points 1 month ago

To reprise a bit of schoolhouse wisdom,

whoever smelt it dealt it.

[–] CompostMaterial 4 points 1 month ago