this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2024
144 points (95.0% liked)

News

23640 readers
3440 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 24 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Fucking crazy that it's slight at this point...

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago

America has a huge fucking problem

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My thought exactly. That and somehow there are "undecided voters". Like what are you waiting for? Does Trump have to personally dump on your face before you'll be like "you know, maybe that dude isn't the best choice."

[–] garretble 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“Undecided voters” has felt like “ashamed to be Republican” voters to me for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yep I've said it plenty. There's no undecideds, just conservatives, centrists and wilfully ignorant people too afraid to publicly admit they're Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

By default Trump should have all woman voters voting against him, no matter who it is. I can't understand how any woman could look at him or his ideas and think, yes, that's best for me. Then again, I could say that about a lot of things and yet some women support them.

[–] rh4c6f 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I read somewhere that many women will vote how their husbands and families vote, even if it's bad for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

When I first becoming politically aware, I was utterly shocked by people, intelligent in some ways, saying they vote Republican because their family is Republican. Like they were voting for the Dodgers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

True of many things, probably. Peer pressure is as bad as brainwashing, or maybe a form of it.

[–] Carnelian 11 points 3 months ago

As mistaken as I believe they are, I can see why some women support him.

Lots of single issue voters see him as the abortion ban guy. Also tons of people that don’t see “him and his ideas” per se, but are so immersed in conservative propaganda that they simply think “Trump presidency = my kids will be able buy a house and live a normal life”

Then there’s the backfire effect, where people tend to double down on their beliefs instead of correcting them when presented with contradictory data. Obviously makes it really hard to pull someone out of the cult, needs a pretty extraordinary set of circumstances in many cases.

Even then, usually it won’t stick. There’s a very well done essay, “The only moral abortion is my abortion” by Joyce Arthur, I highly recommend giving it a read. Women who faithfully protest at abortion clinics and harass other women will one day come in for their own abortion, and then be back to protesting the following day

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

WTF is newsfromthestates.com?

The site itself seems pretty neutral, or "left leaning" as some news bias bot would put it.

Oddly, the site takes pains to hide who is writing it.

Indirectly, it says that it's written by "statesnewsroom.com" which actually does say that it's published and written by these people Chris Fitzsimon and Andrea Verykoukis whose google searches appear to have bona fide histories as progressive journalists.

At first glance, I kind of like it, actually.

There is a deficit in state-level local news, but I'm not sure how many people would actually take the time to read all of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The site is just republishing news from States Newsroom network.

The source here is Minnesota Reformer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

They're all pretty much the same people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But women love Trump! No president has ever done more for women than Trump!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"A slight edge" isn't enough.

Harris needs at least a 4 point lead to overcome the built-in Republican advantage in the Electoral College (fuck the EC).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can you remind me why the EC has a built in advantage for republicans? Is it similar to the senate where states Wyoming must have at least one delegate and therefore Wyoming has more sway than they should?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, that's pretty much it.

Sparsely populated states like the Dakotas have more votes than their population proportionally should have.

Take North Dakota vs California, for example:

North Dakota has 3 electoral votes, California has 54

North Dakota's population is about 784K, and California 39 million, or about 50 times North Dakota's population

If California had proportional electoral representation to ND's based on their population, it would have 150 electoral votes to ND's 3.

Also Southern/conservative states mostly take away the right to vote from felons for life, and therefore a large chunk of the African American vote is ineligible because of disproportionate policing of those communities. Among other problems with AAs' access to their voting rights, like gerrymandering, fewer polling stations, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

harris' edge, or trump being even close? seems as if both are true, huh.

[–] NotAnotherLemmyUser 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Page tracking all of the polls ~~in the battleground states~~: https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris

Edit: List specifying which state for each poll: https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/state/general-election