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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by mayo to c/frugal
 

Here are my basics:

  • Hydroponics: lettuce, basil, strawberries, microgreens. Cost to implement well ~ $350CDN
  • Yoghurt: Cost to implement well ~ $50
  • Crochet + yarn: mainly for making dishcloths. $5
  • Mayo: I like mayo, obviously, but it doesn’t last very long. Has anyone made mayo that lasts as long as store bought?

More advanced ideas?

  • locally sourced meat and eggs: is this cheaper? I’m in Vancouver BC and there are a lot of farms in the valley. Logistics seems challenging.
  • jarring: is it worth learning how to do this and investing in the equipment? volunteering at a farm: I’m sure this would net some food
  • solar power or bike generator: electricity is cheap here
  • minimalism: I’m realizing this is a lifestyle. It has taken me a while to reduce, and I’m still reducing. Are most of you like this?

And things that can save money, but I don’t want to do:

  • Bread: I don’t like making bread. Bread machine vs. buying a mixer?
  • Beer: I’d like to but last time I tried it was messy and space consuming
  • switch to cotton socks and underwear. Quantity over quality.
  • no alcohol or drugs: What’s your experience?
  • meal prep: savings seem big if combined with jarring. But if I had food prepped I’ll eat it, cheaper to skip meals?

Any other ideas welcome. I’m looking to save $$$ by spending $$

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[–] grue 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it just me, or are your ideas listed in the wrong categories? Most of your "optional" (other than the beer) is my "basic," and most of your "basic" is my "advanced!"

By the way, you forgot to list the #1 frugal idea regardless of category: ride a bike!

[–] mayo 1 points 1 year ago

Probably, I edited it and they got all messed around.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

My basics:

  • no drugs, no alcohol, no meat, and I prefer to buy non-perishables bc my fridge isn't very big. Rice, beans, or peanut butter cost like <$13 for a weeks worth of calories
  • buy less. Use everything you have until it is so irreperably broken it must be replaced. Wear old clothes, don't buy new underwear, don't throw out all your current stuff so you can get new quality stuff, though still buy quality items that don't constantly need to be replaced only when actually necessary

If you want to get an appliance, you should probably be getting it because you will actually use it to improve your life, not because it saves money (because it probably won't)

Sure hypothetically, a bike or a crockpot or a bidet or a fishing rod or a sewing machine or a garden or a gym membership or a bread maker can technically save you money, but only if you use it.

Worse still, note that many of these items require maintenance and space, their price is not just limited to the money they costed.

I'm sure there are no shortage of people online who say that they love their bike or something and it saves them tons of money on car expenses, but if you just buy a bike and never use it- it will have been a waste of money.

For example, if we take the average cost of ingredients to make a loaf of bread go be $1.50, the average cost of a store-bought loaf to be $2.50, the average cost of a breadmaker to be $150, and the average calories in a homemade loaf of bread to be 1466 (numbers found with basic google searches), then you would have to make 150 loaves of bread, aka 440 meals for which bread constitutes 50% of the calories eaten (ex: 440 sandwiches) just to break even on your breadmaker purchase

Am I saying this is never a valuable purchase for anybody? No, of course not. If you want, buy a bread maker and enjoy delicious homemade bread. I just think that in general, people should be of the mindset that buying new stuff is a great way to improve your quality of life, but not necessarily is a very good strategy for saving money.

[–] karpintero 8 points 1 year ago

Basics:

  • Cut down on subscription services: We started using our library more, reading/watching stuff we already own, and taking advantage of what's already free on the internet
  • Buying used: I've gotten some big ticket items and smaller stuff for less than half the price of new. Mainly through OfferUp now since I deleted FB, but I've heard marketplace can work too
  • Mainly drink tap water (RO filtered), coffee/tea, and oat milk. Healthier than when we were buying sports drinks and soda. Also, kombucha is pretty easy to make once you've got a SCOBY.

Advanced:

  • Insulating our house. Reduced our electric bill in the summer and gas bill in the winter. Prolongs the life of our AC unit.
  • Getting an electric vehicle. Wife has a longer commute and the savings on gas is significant. Plus no oil changes and less overall maintenance. It's been a great experience and I can't imagine going back to an ICE vehicle in the future.
  • Biking or walking whenever possible. This was easier when we lived in the city, but even in the suburbs we can walk to the gym or grocery store. Driving to the gym to hop on the treadmill always seemed counterintuitive to me.
  • Installing solar panels. Don't have worry as much about our utility bill fluctuating, peak hour usage, or annual rate hikes. Plus there were government incentives that lowered the upfront cost.
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

no alcohol or drugs: I quit drinking a year ago. I've saved a LOT of money. In my case, it was a crutch.

Food-wise, I eat very little meat. If I do, I eat pork liver, chicken hearts/gizzards. Offal basically. Fish can be cheap if you buy it flash frozen or canned. Peanut butter, bananas, and grapes are cheap. Instead of bread, I make my own flat bread.

[–] utiandtheblowfish 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What types of frozen fish do you eat most? What is your preferred type of fish?

[–] Nefara 2 points 1 year ago

Not OP but tilapia and barramundi are pretty widely available and are generally sustainably farmed and vegetable fed so are cheaper than wild caught or carnivorous fish like salmon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Frozen fish: Mackerel. Preferred: Cod.

[–] Nefara 4 points 1 year ago

If you're willing to try bread on easy mode, don't forget "quick breads" made with baking soda instead of yeast. They're much simpler and don't need time to rise, or a bread machine to make. You can just chuck the ingredients in a bowl, mix, then dump in a bread pan or two, then bake. Banana bread or pumpkin bread are great for breakfast for a few days, and Irish soda bread can make a decent sandwich or toast. You still get to enjoy hot fresh bread with whole ingredients but much less hassle.

[–] TheGiantKorean 4 points 1 year ago

I make egg free mayo (egg allergy) and it lasts forever. I use this recipe:

https://minimalistbaker.com/easy-vegan-mayo-with-aquafaba/

I add 1/8tsp xanthan gum as well which I feel improves the texture.

[–] utiandtheblowfish 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A bread maker is very easy, but the big reason people dont want them is the size of the appliance. It’s just so large

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I looked at this and it seemed to cost more than store bought loaves (Australia)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You can often find second hand machines in excellent condition (sold by people who think they are too large after they bought them?). Mine was about €20.

I use bread mixtures from the supermarket which cost about €1.50 per kg and are good for two small loafs.

[–] utiandtheblowfish 2 points 1 year ago

It depends on the type of bread you’re looking to have. If you just want cheap sandwich bread, a grocery store will be cheaper. If you want to have a nice warm loaf to spread butter or jelly on, it will be cheaper with a bread maker. I think there is an assumption that you would also have most of the ingredients on hand. Yeast is the only specialty ingredient.

[–] reversebananimals 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Love this prompt. Here's how I interpret the categories.

Basic / Easy to Implement:

  • Learning to cook and mealprep - sustain yourself without prepared food
  • Buying generic - find low cost replacements for name brand items
  • Buying used - look through Craigslist / FB Marketplace for durable items
  • Maintaining your things - buy items that last a long time with proper care, and give proper care

Advanced / Difficult to Implement:

  • Embracing low-cost hobbies - center your focus and happiness around activities that are cheap or free. Exercise and creative pursuits are good options. I like hiking, rollerblading, programming, reading and playing tabletop games.
  • Cooking from scratch - baking homemade bread, making homemade stock, fermenting your own pickles and making your own sauces
  • Lowering your transport costs - go car-less, move closer to shops, work and friends

Not Worth it to Implement (IMO):

  • Producing your own food - growing produce beyond a small vegetable garden / raising animals is more effort than its worth IMO.
  • Sewing your own clothes - I have tried it, but the savings are marginal and its a huge time expense
  • Eating cheap food to save money - Grocery store freezer pizzas are $4 for 2+ meals worth of food w/ 0 prep time, but your medical bills will cost more than you save in the 10+ year horizon
  • Brewing your own alcohol - not as much of a cost saver as it sounds. can often be the same price as buying beer, plus a huge time expense
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

We do jarring for passata, like the old Italian sauce day. Cost a bit to set up bit otherwise it makes a fantastic product, though never looked to see if it was cheaper than bought stuff.

That said, you can basically use it in pasta and not need much else to make that whole meal cheaper, it tastes so much better.

Solar power is fantastic where I am, but that is much sunnier than Canada.

[–] PlaidBaron 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Canning is worth it IF you like canned goods. I only do hot water bath canning because of my kitchen setup, but you can do pressure canning.

I live in an area with cheap local produce so I do a lot of pickling and jams.

A great food preservation option, however, is a dehydrator. I use that way more than canning. There is a lot you can dehydrate and if any of my produce is starting to go, I dehydrate it. It is very easy to use and takes minimal prep time. You can also get them cheap and are often easy to find second hand because many people buy them and realize they wont use them.

[–] reversebananimals 2 points 1 year ago

I live in an area with cheap local produce so I do a lot of pickling and jams.

I think this is the real key to canning. For canning to be worth it you have to have something cheap to can. If you're going to an NYC grocery store to buy strawberries for jam, you're better off just buying the jam on the shelf.

[–] Okokimup 2 points 1 year ago

I enjoy canning (not sure if that's what you meant by jarring), but I'm not convinced it's that frugal. Especially beans. You can get a can of beans for 65 cents at aldi. Dry beans come out to about the same cost including jar and/or lid prices, not to mention the time and energy commitment. I do it anyway because I like to make things from scratch and canning them frees up freezer space.

I grow some of my own herbs. Basil and rosemary are the only ones I've been successful at keeping alive. The rosemary is in a pot outside, requires no care, and has paid for itself many times over. The basil is in a hydroponic planter in the kitchen and will take years to pay for itself, but the planter also makes for a nice lamp.

The only thing I've found cheaper at my farmers market is eggs. Vegetables are crazy expensive there. Not worth going just for eggs though. Meat is much more expensive, though I'm sure its vastly better quality. I only make 2 meals per week with meat.

There's no sense reducing for it's own sake. Avoiding the acquisition of new items can be good, but if you already own it, only get rid of it if its costing you more (in storage, upkeep, or mental energy) than its gaining you.

I dont do big meal prepping, but I try to always have enough to get one meal from leftovers (for the whole family). If we dont finish it, it goes in the freezer and makes a great backup for occasions when you cant cook or just need a quick meal.

We invested in a small chest freezer so we can fill up when meat goes on sale, I can bake bread and put extra loaves in the freezer, we can blanche and freeze excess vegetables, etc.

I darn my socks and sew up holes in underwear. Almost never eat out. Buy what I can secondhand. Turned off subscriptions I dont need, but kept the ones that add value to my life. Get all my books from the library via the libby app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My basics:

  • second hand almost everything
  • some stuff from my balcony (chives, chard, strawberries, rosemary)
  • sewing machine to alter and mend my (second hand) clothes or linens, and to make stuff from scraps (like pillowcases, handkerchiefs or potholders)
  • "ugly" vegetables (not pretty enough for supermarket shelves)
  • cloth napkins, rugs and handkerchiefs
  • almost no meat
  • only tap water to drink (well, ok, coffee in the morning and herbal tea in the evening)
  • no car, but a public transport pass and two bicycles

Jarring: Not much of a learning curve, and you hardly need any equipment. I do have jars anyway for shopping at the zero waste shop, and you can simply use your oven. But still I hardly ever do it.

I rent, so could only install a small solar system on my balcony. Not high on my priority list - but I have some shares in local solar and windpower co-ops. Electricity is expensive (Germany), but is covered that way

Minimalism: I prefer a minimalistic look, but I think if you save money, you are a minimalist even if it doesn't show.

I do have a bread maker and wouldn't want to miss it.

I only wear natural fibres, so of course cotton (or wool!) socks and underwear. But those are the only clothes I buy new so I can easily afford the best quality there. I darn my socks, by the way.

Drugs: I don't drink any alcohol but I vape, and treat myself to a good Cuban cigar every once in a while.

[–] walnutwalrus 1 points 1 year ago

bread

in oven maybe? toaster oven? idk

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I can speak to the jarring part.

I've been collecting cheap mason jars for years whenever I find them. An often overlooked use of them is the long-term preservation of bulk, dry foods. Like lentils, oats, rice etc. These are easily cooked and in tandem with a pressure cooker opens up a lot of quick meals.

We often purchase 25lb sacks of stuff we eat lots of. (Look into Azure Standard to see if they have a drop point near you -huge savings in shipping of heavy food).

Many do not know that dry foods such as grains or beans inherently contain insect eggs that will eventually hatch and consume your food -or at least make it way less appetizing. A way around this is to store in mason jars that have been evacuated of air. This is done either through an electric pump appliance such as a vacu-sealer, or manually through a hand pump you can purchase cheaply through places like Amazon.

Love to find the half-gallon jars as they are high capacity. Dry foods so stored will last for years with little degradation in a near vacuum.

Has saved us a lot of money over the years. Another plus is that we always have staples put back for months.