Almost pulled the trigger on a Skyline, but then read about the bootloader not being unlockable, and hmd "promising" to make it unlockable at a later time. That's bullshit right there - if you offer only 2 years of software support you better make the bootloader unlockable, otherwise it's e-waste.
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I suspect bad faith any time a company doesn't do it the Pixel way (dev settings and fastboot unlock).
HMD also doesn't provide any mechanism for unlocking the bootloader
This is the part that's inexcusable.
Nothing is built to last. Not in the customer class of products in the capitalist world. Basically, if you can buy it retail, it's made to sell. Not to last. Planned obsolescence included at no extra cost.
This is the main reason they got rid of the headphone jack. Some headphones lasted forever.
Now you have Bluetooth earbuds with tiny batteries that goes in a case with another small battery. Batteries that small will last 5 years tops. On top of that sound quality hasn't improved and latency got worse.
Nothing is built to last? No. One little Company still holds out against this concept.
Btw, their 5th phone has an industrial Snapdragon so they can deliver software updates for a couple years longer.
I've been using the FP3 since it came out, and no complaints yet. However, they recently discontinued a lot of the spare parts. Which goes directly against the concept of having a long lasting repairable phone.
I like the fairphone idea, I really do, and I realize that maintaining the fairphone ecosystem is expensive... But! 550€ on sale for a 128GB storage and 6GB RAM phone? GTFO. Update promises are great, but a small company promising 7 years? I hope that the fairphone company survives that long, and even longer, but I wouldn't be basing my phone purchase on that promise.
For my usage I can get comparable phones for the same cost per day, but with less of an initial investment, and without the risk of time.
You don't buy a Fairphone because of specs, you do because you care about workers conditions and the environment. Also, FPs support third party OSes that provide updates for years
This phone looks like a bad bargain because all the other ones use what amounts to slavery for their production. I would say this is the actual approximation of a fair market price and all the other manufacturers are cheating.
Also while they're repairable and they have that going for them, Google also promises 7 years of updates, so they're not even unique on that selling point.
their phones don't have specs that work today, letalone 5 years from now.
I mean I've been using an FP5 for the best of a year now and it's fine? performance wise I have no complaints but I don't game on my phone or use most social media apps which all look very bloated now days.
I think this applies to recent products, we have quite a few 10+ yo devices which still function as they did when new. PCs, half-smart 1080p TVs, first and second gen iPads (one iPad 2 has %98 battery life after 500 cycles) etc.
The issue isn't the software has limited support, the issue is the software doesn't get open sourced when support ends.
There's some good point's here, even the articles author seems to have doubt's as to the validity of such devices where updates are concerned.
Putting all those aside for a moment, to me the silver lining is the ability to easily swap out a failing battery or charging port, especially if your a ham-fisted user who regularly rams the connection in. I've had no end of these fail over the years and more often than not, simply disposed of the device.
The other thing I miss from back in the day was the ability to disconnect the battery when a device gets frozen, it's not resolving the underling issue but a great way to get things up and running again.