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The most awkward episode? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/tenforward

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TNG S4E16 Galaxy's Child

This episode has so much cringe in it.

Geordie setting up a meeting and trying to make it into a date is a lot. Plus omitting that he had the computer summarize her files to resolve a critical crisis, while using the information he got from her file in discussing with her is not good.

Brahms does an excellent job letting him down and putting up firm boundaries.

But oh god, when she discovers the holodeck program, and then Geordie rant!

It's tough to watch in a totally different way than the Quark Gender swap episode.

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[–] RoidingOldMan 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

DS9 S04E20 "The Muse"

Jake Sisko does like... alien drugs. While that girl keeps rubbing his head and is feeding on his brain power/creativity. Been awhile.

[–] ummthatguy 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where the presence Lwaxana is the least awkward part of the episode.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

By the prophets I love Lwaxana

[–] ummthatguy 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No argument there. Getting older and rewatching each series after several years has made her one of the best recurring characters.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One thing I really admire about her is that she always seems to instantly know precisely how serious something is, and then she makes light of it exactly until that level.

For example supporting Odo when he couldn't stay solid, she made it not shameful and just reassured him. Or when she casually pointed out those two fish face assassins the second time she was on enterprise, they weren't a threat in stasis, so she just called them ugly until it was time go.

She kept overly serious Picard on his toes in a way nobody else possibly could. She showed Alexander there was a whole other side of life when he was dealing with loss and a father who was pushing too hard to make up for his "Klingon" identity.

When that scientist came on the ship she knew she could throw decorum out and hit on him, but when he was going to be euthanized she pushed hard to help.

She just gives exactly the right amount of fucks in ever scenario, and she does it in the opposite way as stoic Picard, she's a wonderful chaotic contrast.

[–] ummthatguy 12 points 3 months ago

Well said. The bit with Odo, where she removes her wig in empathy/solidarity, shows the kind of strength of character she possessed.

[–] VindictiveJudge 5 points 3 months ago

Lwaxana was an interesting character, but it definitely took them a while to dial her in and make her fun to watch. Though that's also kind of the entire show.

[–] marlowe221 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

“Nerdy guy who has trouble with women” has been a decent premise for a story for a long time. It even allows for some character development.

But the way it was handled in TNG with Geordi was terrible. Geordi, and LeVar Burton deserved a lot better than that.

[–] ummthatguy 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Dude struck out twice with Julie Warner from Tommy Boy.

It wasn't until his interaction with Zalkonian that he developed the confidence to interact with her without being an asshat.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That second image of Geordie is gold

I wanted to include this shot but I couldn't think of a clever enough line

[–] ummthatguy 11 points 3 months ago

Neither could Geordi. She was tossing him softballs of conversation starters, but all he could do was fumble his words. Tommy at least had the confidence to be himself, buffoonish though that may be.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

You've named some strong contenders, but don't forget the episode where Kes goes into heat

[–] BoxOfFeet 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Omg, I forgot about the Quark episode. I've only seen DS9 once. Both those episodes strengthen my core with the extreme cringe they induce.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It had so much potential to demonstrate women's issues, then someone went "let's juxtapose the seriousness of rape with a Benny Hill esque scene Quark getting chased by a gross man in his underwear"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

When you said “Quark Gender Swap” I assumed you were referring to when they put Quark’s head on a hologram of sexy Major Kira.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, Leah Brahms is Commander Benteen!

[–] ummthatguy 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Good catch. So many recycled actors among the various series. At least they gave Combs some degree of disguise with makeup and prosthesis.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

[–] trolololol 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What are you saying? I honestly never caught that and watching next post I'm sure it's the hair style that confused me.

[–] ummthatguy 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apologies if I wasn't very clear. Her appearance in DS9 seems hardly disguised compared to when other guest actors are repurposed.

Perhaps it was for budgetary reasons. I simply saw her as Brahms in a Starfleet uniform.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Sometimes I don't even recognize human Dukat in Sisko's visions lol

[–] Corvid 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Geordie is an incel. Any interaction he has with a woman is hard to watch.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago

I don’t know if he’s an Incel… he lacks the hateful parts of that subculture but he is abundant in awkwardness, ignorance, and inappropriate advances.

I think there are a few episodes he gets let down and just kinda sighs and accepts it, which isn’t too bad.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Worse, he's an ENGINEER

[–] grue 1 points 3 months ago

Geordi has "the knack"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Geordi canonically has a 2 daughters who I’m pretty sure are not androids.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I still wonder, if Voyager would have been better or worse with her as Janeway.

[–] cosmicrookie 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I haven't seen all Star Track yet. Only gotten to Next Generation for now.

But the episode with Kirk and Miri just felt wrong for me