This says very little about BMW. This says a lot about the toxicity of Lonnie-boy. People don’t like him. Those that do are nazi boot-lickers. Tesla is owned by a shitty person and decent people are turned off by that.
I love it.
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I think it says a lot about BMW, too. They seem to have a working strategy to increase their market share
I got an i5 by my employer. And BMW has their horses together. The car is well designed, the features are impressive, and while not matketed as an autopilot, the driving assistant is far more robust then Tesla can deliver.
And their are buttons! Not just an oversized tablet strapped with some ducktape into the car.
The biggest difference for me is: while BMW made sure that you are not distracted while driving (head up display, voice assistant, gesture control for entertainment,....) Tesla does not care if you have to navigate deep inside a touchscreen menu to change the speed of your fucking front shield wipers...
Yeah, that's fair.
Why hasn't the board hired a new CEO to try to fix fhe company? If another automaker were experiencing the declinea Tesla is, investors would be clamoring. Do people really like Elon more than they like money? I am fuckin confused.
He is a massive liability to them now that the political mask is off. He really needs replacing.
Other auto makers are experiencing problems.
Ford for example just canceled their next EV, delayed their next trucks to 2027, and are going to make hybrid plug ins instead at their new EV factory. They're even taking a billion+ hit due to it.
GM announced they're going to focus more on hybrid plug ins as well.
VW delayed Trinity to the 2030s
So while Elon is definitely a cause, it's impossible to say this is all him.
Edit: further,the article says overall EV sales in the EU are down 6% YoY. So definitely good job on BMW here.
It's funny. BMW took an opposite approach to everyone else when it comes to EVs. I (mistakenly) thought they would fail.
Ford, VW, Mercedes, etc. were developing specific platforms for electric vehicles, given that they are different enough architecturally that using the manufacturing processes meant for internal combustion engines wouldn't be cost efficient. However, after the experiment that the i3 was, BMW decided it was more sensible to just reuse platforms from internal combustion engine vehicles for their new EVs.
I thought this would be inefficient, besides not taking proper advantage of the packaging wins that an EV architecture allows.
A few years in, and thanks to their strategy they've developed a big range of EVs at a comparatively lower cost. Nobody cares that the i4 doesn't have a frunk, or that their platform wasn't purposely designed for EVs. Even if the manufacturing cost is higher, having a smaller upfront cost has allowed them to move faster.
Kudos to them for their success, even if it comes from playing it safe.
That’s true, but Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis have a custom E-GMP platform which has been allowing them to crank out EVs left and right and they’re selling like mad. I think it’s more that US car manufacturers are just so entrenched in the “we can’t fail” mindset from being bailed out time and time again that they really don’t care. No matter what they do they’re still gonna sell and make money. They have no chance of going out of business so they can just execute anything lazily. Tesla got lazy and haven’t released any “new model” in a decade (every Tesla looks the same besides the cybertruck). Ford only made one EV. Chevy made one that takes an hour to charge 20%. GM is only making $100k+ vehicles. It’s the exact opposite of how china is building evs.
BMW is making EVs around the same price as Hyundai, Kia, and Genesis and they’re all doing just fine with it. New cool models, no janky things like GM or Tesla. Just normal cars but electric and a few “tech” improvements.
Well if that's what they did, they did it better than the others who tried the same thing and failed.
True. But they are also working on a new, fully electric platform, expected to launch in 2025 (the "neue Klasse").
Just basing off what OP said...
If BMW was able to figure out how to reuse their ICE architecture for EVs and make them profitable, that at least buys them time to figure out the new EV architecture while learning about EVs.
But it'll be impossible to stay competitive forever that way which is why they are making the other platform.
But buying themselves that time without losing a boat load of money would be a big benefit
Some of the others tried it, but didn't make them profitable
Who the f wants to drive a Tesla and support neo Nazis?