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X are being sued by the Irish data regulator for breaching the GDPR in processing European citizens' data for Grok AI without an initial opt-out.

The pause is a temporary measure until they return to the Irish High Court.

It finally feels like these data vampires are being tackled even if the pace is a crawl.

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[–] dinckelman 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They can pause the rest of their service too, because no one needs to participate in this nazi echochamber

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I stopped using twitter a couple of years ago, so I fully agree that one is better off without it

But when you reduce it to a nazi echochamber, don't you feel at least a teensy sense of irony?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How magnanimous of them. Also I don’t believe them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

There's no reason for them to keep defying the court. It could make the ruling worse for them and GDPR fines are hefty to begin with. They can't possibly hope to gain anything of equivalent or greater value to the fine from a bit more data.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter 8 points 3 months ago

So they made some promises.

I know someone who is doing that quite regularly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

It's going to really suck when they are told they can't use the data they already trained it on. Lmao.

[–] takeda 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

How can I make sure that with ActivityPub that my comments can't be legally used to train AI? Does lemmy have some kind of terms of use?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

They will do it regardless and just pretend they didn't. GDPR would already protect you if you're from the EU, but as you can see, they don't really care about that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Legally? No idea. What might be adequate protection in the country your instance is hosted, is probably unenforceable in another country where a federated instance might be.

Technically, you could try by using your own, self hosted instance, and not federating with others, so they won't be able to scrape your content as easily.

But realistically speaking, your comments are possibly more likely to be scraped on Lemmy, since it's so much more open for bots, and your content is replicated to much more servers, not all of which may have noble intents.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's true as well that I hadn't thought of, one could just spin up a VPS in a country that doesn't give a shit about licensing agreements and use a bot to scrape the data, or even just spin a instance up and Federate/subscribe with everyone that is an open instance / doesn't use the whitelist (i.e most of the instances) and scrape that way. The only real defense against the latter is defederation, but that system isn't very advanced and is easily bypassable if you don't have a bunch of users

Personally I would be absolutely shocked if this wasn't already happening, downside of a free/decentralized protocol I guess

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Better yet, just spin up your own instance, subscribe to all major communities, and have the servers push the comments to yours. No scraping required, and nobody will ever find out it was you.

Statistically it's likely to have happened already.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't think you can, some have a license notice at the end of each comment but I have major doubts that it would actually hold up in any actual court hearing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Ireland knows enough about colonization, imperialism, etc. to refuse the electronic version.