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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] ummthatguy 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ummthatguy 4 points 1 month ago
[–] clearedtoland 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now that I think about it, it’s like The Matrix but way before The Matrix.

[–] FlyingSquid 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There are other antecedents to The Matrix.

There's Dark City, for one. In the Mouth of Madness did it with horror novels. There's The Truman Show, which is a similar idea with television.

You could even argue that the TV series The Prisoner is a lot like The Matrix in the idea of a 'real world' and then a simulated world that looks like the real one that the protagonist is trapped in.

[–] ummthatguy 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ah, Dark City. Came out not long before The Matrix and was largely overshadowed/ignored. I hold that it's a better film overall. For it's innovation and Keanu's 2nd big break brought out by The Matrix, it's a weaker story. Plus, Dark City has Riff Raff and Jennifer Connelly. No contest.

Edit: Forgot that the Matrix actually reused some of Dark City's sets for the rooftop scenes.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Dark City director's cut improves the film immensely just by taking out the opening narration.

[–] ummthatguy 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That always bugged me. Must have been some yokels during test screenings that complained they didn't "get it", so some suit at the studio made Kiefer Sutherland lay out the entire plot in the beginning monologue.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I used to live in L.A.

The way they do a lot of test screenings is having people standing in shopping malls (usually ones with movie theaters) offering free tickets to any takers.

Stupidest possible way to test your movie with an audience. Get the bored people with nothing better to do than accept a free ticket to a random movie.

[–] ummthatguy 4 points 1 month ago

That's how I saw The Rock's "Gridiron Gang", meandering a mall. It was a bloated mess and I hear the finished product, while trimmed, still wasn't worth it.

[–] spongeborgcubepants 4 points 1 month ago

There is also "The futurological congress" by Stanislaw Lem

[–] Machinist 3 points 1 month ago

The Thirteenth Floor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I remember watching a thing where they auctioned off a lot of Star Trek props, and the little flute prop from this episode went for a ton of money. Apparently reacting to this, Patrick Stewart laughed and said "It doesn't play! It's not a real flute!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I love this sub. Unfortunately I'm not enough of a fan, so some of the memes here go right over my head. Like this one. No idea what I'm looking at

[–] ummthatguy 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not a simple one to explain without the build up of character. Best to just watch most of TNG. This is from late season 5.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Will do, shouldn't take longer than an hour or two, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Ok that one's funny

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Picard's alternate life on that doomed world inspires some deja vu bumping up against current events.