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[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I didn't see that coming, I'll admit.

Guess those greedy bastards know what they're doing.

[–] Art3sian 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People don’t give big business enough credit in this space. Things like this are market tested and simulated long before they are rolled out.

[–] Purplexingg 24 points 1 year ago

Well, things work until they don't. Predictions can only get you so far. See: new coke, qwikster, onlyfans trying to ban porn. But yeah I'm sure they did a cost benefit and decided it was worth

[–] EyesEyesBaby 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Net subscribers may have increased, but I suspect many of them have chosen a cheaper option. Since my family can no longer use my account there's no need to have 3 simultaneous streams. I chose for a cheaper subscription and expect many to do the same.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a news article floating around yesterday claiming that Netflix was about to ditch their cheapest ad-free option?

[–] EyesEyesBaby 12 points 1 year ago

They are, in the US and UK. Greedy bastards.

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[–] PrinceWith999Enemies 53 points 1 year ago

I mean, *maybe. *

First, they’re not seeing the effects of their policy yet. Its too soon after launch. I know I haven’t received a notification yet, and if they lock it down, netflix is getting cut. I might rotate them in and out, but like in the case of twitter and reddit, I will walk away. There’s more content out there than anyone can watch in several lifetimes already. If I resubscribe one month per year to catch up on the baking show, so be it.

Second, they’re doing the typical thing where they’re quoting a KPI without context. Once things have settled down (which, again, they haven’t yet) we can see whether their month over month and year over year subscriber count, hours watched, and revenue has increased over what it would have been otherwise. That’s a key part. If, six months from now, they’re showing sustained and above average growth in major markets, then they did make the right call (for them - I’d still be out as a customer). If not, then whoever came up with this scheme should be questioning their decision-making.

In science, cherry picking measurements to support your narrative is called p-hacking. It’s frowned upon. In business ot can get you promoted, unless you happen to work with someone who knows that trick and who is willing to out you doing it.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How many did they lose? They lost one from me

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn’t really matter because there were more new subscribers than canceled

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Depends on how many of those people stay on. Most the people I know who signed up because they got locked out are finishing the series that they're currently watching and cancelling. Couple of them already finished up.

[–] Nurgle 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ultimate_question 5 points 1 year ago

Actually I just did the math, factoring in OP's comment it was only 5,999,999 net

[–] Ghostalmedia 19 points 1 year ago

It was a net gain. Went from 232 millions subscribers to 238.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many new subscribers would they have had in the same time period anyway?

Article says Netflix believes 100 million (half of all subscribers) houses were sharing passwords. Six million would be like 3% growth ...which is how much more then they would have if they didn't do this? 1.5% maybe?

It doesn't really seem significant

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Significance probably does not matter to them. Number goes up = good job.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That's not jolly. That's not jolly at all.

What ever you do, please do not visit communities like [email protected] to find methods of getting the content you want. Remember, you wouldn't download a car, you wouldn't download a netflix. Piracy, ~~it's a crime~~ it doesn't cost a dime!

Again, please do not visit communities like [email protected] 😉

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Please no. Don't go there. Nooooo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, people pirating makes me pair plex.

These foul villains can nibl on the jellyfins under the sea for all I care.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I dunno, I spend too much on HDDs 😅

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But do you have enough to download a car? 😉

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[–] kemsat 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I mean… it’s not really surprising. I know the internet was all angry about it, but I’m sure most people just went “well, it was it was nice while it lasted” and subscribed to a service they already like & used but could get away with using without paying.

[–] 2pt_perversion 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It still too soon to tell honestly. The major bump of this policy is a one time surge of all the built up password-sharers but it's likely not going to be huge swing to their growth long term.

And then these new subscribers, are they going to stick around? A common scenario might be someone cutoff midway through a series just subscribing for a couple months to finish them off.

And for the same reason I would expect new subs from the policy would happen quickly while unsubs might be delayed. The main account holders would likely finish off their series and take time deciding on their new streaming service before outright cancelling.

And all of this just ruffles feathers and makes the service a bit less valuable right when real competition is heating up.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a netflix subscription. But I still torrent netflix series.

Because:

  • I travel a lot, and my downloads are more portable
  • Netflix are a bunch of cunts that need to be reminded that their only basis for existence is that they are (for now) slightly more convenient than piracy.
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You torrenting benefits them because it reduces their server load.

[–] thedrivingcrooner 5 points 1 year ago

They should be paying me!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Set up an openvpn/wireguard server at a "home" with bandwith, and have family/friends route their Roku/streaming device route through a router with openvpn/wireguard client back to the same "home" .

[–] Laticauda 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Nah I'll just pirate shit instead.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My nas and Jellyfin ftw

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You want to walk my dad through that?

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[–] DrQuint 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Uh. Didn't predict this.

Yet another example of corporations running the world and nothing to be done about it on an individual level.

I'm out of fucks to give. May the world burn.*turns on AC*

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

After fifteen years, I cancelled my Netflix last year. Don't miss it at all.

I think all these streaming platforms forget that not all of us need to watch their content 24/7. I spend less than an hour watching television a day while eating food and that's it.

Did you know that you can still enjoy Youtube ad-free (or the occasional 10-second skippable ad). How do you do it? By not watching youtube at all aside from the random how-to video. Since I watch less than an hour of youtube a month on average, I see essentially zero ads.

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[–] Halvo317 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They lost subs in areas with the password crackdown and picked up subs in lower cost areas. They earned less.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Not what the article states:

According to Netflix, revenue is up in every region where paid sharing was introduced, and sign-ups have exceeded cancelations. The company saw revenue growth of 2.7 percent year over year.

Edit: I think you‘re right about them loosing subs in areas of the crackdown and winning even more in new areas. It’s not 100% clear in this article (but apparently more so in Reuters‘).

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[–] Ghostalmedia 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they did not. They continued to grow. They’re a publicly traded company and all of the details were just reported out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Just finished reading Reuters and AP, and they both agree that Netflix added 6 million in areas of cheap subscription and no crackdowns vs losses in USA and UK.

[–] lurkandtwerk 6 points 1 year ago

I'm sure it has been a profitable move in the short term, but I think password sharing was what enabled Netflix shows to have a more significant cultural impact than shows on other streaming services—despite the relatively poor quality of Netflix's programming.

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