Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!
"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.
micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"
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Last year 18 people died in lithium-ion battery fires, according to the FDNY
And 299 died from traffic violence last year. This year it's 127 Jan-Jun.
Doesn't even include negligence, which is waaaaaay higher
So, I've heard that embedding the individual cells in resin(?) leads to far greater stability (can't get runaway fires where one cell lights the next and so forth...). Obviously crap for repairability, but good for safety. Anyone got any good info on this, preferably from the perspective of battery builders?
I think I heard it called binning which is kind of a confusing term to me because my mind goes to processor fabrication (neerrrrrd)
I dont know how often it happens but I have seen resin encased battery packs catch on fire. Though they were 6 KW/h packs.
This sounds like total BS. I personally designed battery packs for transit vehicles. I would never encase batteries in resin. That would make heat buildup a problem. Although resin filled with boron carbide particles for example would be more conductive than air, it cannot flow. Since the material is not flowing, the heat stays trapped inside the box, only allowed to cool via conduction thru a shitty conductor. On the other hand, air is not a great heat conductor, but you can blow bast amounts of it thru the box. Same for water cooling, except you can't have direct contact between electrical components and water. Thus the best heat transfer system would include air flow. Batteries are generally rolls. This makes the heat generated able to travel faster in the axial direction along the length, than in the radial direction from center to outer surface. Thus cooling the ends of the batteries tends to be efficient enough and may allow you to encase the rest in resin. However from the jelly to the outer case, there is usually poor contact. Only Tesla has come up with a way to transfer that heat more efficiently. But then they haven't really use those cells in production for very long. Normal rolls add conductive strips to connect the collected current to either pole of the cylindrical cell. In Teslas design, the rolled material is offset and has tiny cuts which then allow each electrode to have far better contact. This is both thermally and electrical.
Anyway, don't encase in resin, that's not smart.
Thankyou, kindly. Thought it was BS and the best way to find out is to say it's so, someone will tell you you're wrong, often informatively,. Still, the principle of isolating individual cells from runaway burn seems valid in the case of eBike batteries. If not resin, then what?
Well lifepo4 batteries are less prone to having the dendrite issue where literally metal spikes made of lithium compounds will pierse the separator and catch fire. So switching to this safer chemistry is the way to go.