I've been using Immich for both gallery and backup.
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I’ve had major issues with docker upgrades. Just make sure you’re back up somewhere else too. They have fast paced development that breaks stuff occasionally.
Yeah you have to either never upgrade the app/server together or set aside time to read the entire update notes for changes you need to manually make.
I love immich so far but they really need to settle into non breaking changes sometime soon. Or at least add some sanity checks to updates to save users from themselves
This is an excellent choice
PhotoPrism. I'm not convinced it's the best, but it works for me and I've zero motivation to switch.
Which app do you use with it? This one? As far as I'm aware, PhotoPrism doesn't have an official Android app.
They do have an official app. I used to use the fork, but I changed my workflow and didn't need the patch anymore and went back to the upstream version of the server and client.
The app you linked to is unmaintained and archived on GitHub, and the Readme says:
The Flutter App for PhotoPrism® is not official and should be installed by developers and advanced users only
Huh; thanks, I must have grabbed the wrong one when I switched phones. It's been working fine, but then, I don't use it much. Good to know I need to switch, though - thanks again!
For phone photos, I use a FOSS gallery app. For photo syncing, I use PhotoBackup, plus a script on the server that watches the upload directory and calls the PhotoPrism "Import" function via the REST API.
Anyhoo, thanks for catching that.
For photo syncing, I use PhotoBackup
Thanks, but I wonder for how long this will continue to work, considering that the latest PhotoBackup build is from November of 2016 and it targets Android 4.1 (newer Android versions will probably require a higher version target). In the long term, I think that migrating to Immich or Ente is the better option. Both have official, well-maintained FOSS apps, that are available on F-Droid, and the backend services can be completely self-hosted.
- Immich
- App
- Self-hosting: https://immich.app/docs/install/requirements
- Ente
- App
- Self-hosting: https://help.ente.io/self-hosting/
Android could break it, but I don't subscribe to the philosophy that an essentially bug-free, functioning piece of software needs constant updates to stay useful. If Android doesn't break it with API shenanigans, I'm perfectly happy to continue using it.
If Android does break it, all it is is a file syncing service. SyncThing could slot into the workflow with minor effort.
Modular systems rock. They have many advantages over all-in-one, monolithic systems; that they're harder for users to set up and use is almost the only way they're inferior.
"AI Powered" :/
Exactly what I'm trying to avoid.
But I'll consider it if it's opt-in only and it doesn't nag me.
That's a fair bit of skepticism. In this case it's justified. It's used to auto-tag photos, either cats, dogs, people, buildings; or if you manually tag people in some photos it will go through and auto-tag your whole library. It's all done locally on the server, no calls out to external services, so it's private. And it works pretty well.
So, yeah. In this case, the ML is useful and justified.
Ok, thanks. So it needs a server, it seems? Can it run as a standalone phone app?
It needs a server. You need a server of some sort of you're synching your photos off the phone. If you're only looking for a different gallery phone app, there are several good ones (and a few interesting, novel approaches) in f-droid.
Cool. Thanks!
immich.app
It's tied to a cloud service, isn't it?
It’s self hosted
Got it. Thanks!
I think it is just called Gallery from f-droid. Its got folder support and you can hide stuff you don't use. Its basic but has a decent editor and is not network connected.
Edit: its called Fossify Gallery. My bad y'all
If you find a URL where I can check out its feature, could you please let me know?
Thanks!
My bad, it was called fossify gallery.
Installed. Thanks!
This looks great, nothing fancy, no adds, just what I wanted. Thanks 🙏
You mean this one? https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.dot.gallery
It was the fossify gallery, I had it mixed up. My bad. In the app drawer, it just says gallery on it.
If you don't care about cloud/backup stuff I recommend Aves. I've been using it for a few years now
I use Aves Libre, pretty good and powerful, but it doesn't have its own photo editor, so if you need to crop something you need another app with it
Thanks! I'm giving it a try. I can live without editing capabilities.
I've also tried a bunch and liked this one the best, I wish it had a built in crop function but other than that it's great
Synology NAS hardware comes with a free surprisingly feature-rich clone of Google Photos that stores only to your local NAS (with options to further backup to various cloud providers).
Aves libre on fdroid
I've been running GrapheneOS and haven't had such issues.
It doesn't use the proprietary Google Photos app
Isn't GrapheneOS only available on Pixel devices? I've been wanting to try it but I don't have a Pixel.
Yes grapheneOS only supports pixels at the moment, but LineageOS and other forks of AOSP are available for other phones and also tend to not include any google apps at all by default.