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[–] mangosloth 55 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm a run of the mill American citizen, 4 generations back my family has been American. No birth weirdness or dual citizenship or anything. Decided to live overseas after uni to broaden my horizons, and last time I came back home for the holidays I was grilled on my americanness by customs... They almost didn't let me in because they thought I was suspicious, and my passport didn't seem right. They even said "how can you be American if you're a resident of (country)?" I think I got the same line as this article too, the whole no way to prove I'm American (despite my passport being in their hands). Theres a gatekeeping mentality that I suspect is rampant in all levels of government, and I just wonder how many good people who deserve to be here are barred from a normal life in the US because of it

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago

the customs there have insane powers to deny and fuck over pretty much anyone without oversight or culpability

if your name looks even slightly middle eastern or have a passport from the wrong country then you will randomly get denied entry if the agent feels that way that day

[–] grue 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I just wonder how many good people who deserve to be here are barred from a normal life in the US because of it

Well, about 1.8 million and a few generations worth of descendants is a good lower bound.

[–] Etterra 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Southern State is stupid, film at 11.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but the article says this was for a REAL ID, which is a federal program to enhance state IDs. If the guy has a passport, that's perfectly valid proof of citizenship, and he can just bring that to the DMV. Or, he should have a certificate or report of US birth abroad. If he doesn't have any of those, he can request a certificate of citizenship.

Or he could just get a regular driver's license without the REAL ID. Those aren't going away any time soon and are perfectly valid for driving, no citizenship required.

[–] stoly 11 points 4 months ago

Real ID isn’t the issue here. This is either an idiot or an asshole making someone’s life difficult just because.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

History of military service was a citizenship 😮‍💨

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

If I remember correctly, you only need to serve one a year in the military to become a naturalized citizen...