“Democrats say ‘Vote’” but many didn’t vote, or voted third-party in 2016.
This Supreme Court is a result of that election.
Congratulations on demonstrating how to hand the government to Republicans.
Let’s not do that any more.
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I love how this is painted entirely as the fault of people who chose not to vote, and not the fault of the Democrats who seem to try their best to run the shittiest possible candidate. If Democrats would have run a candidate that was worth voting for, maybe more people would have turned out to vote for their candidate.
The gap between Hillary's popular vote win and Trump's electoral college win is the biggest gap in US history. We've never had so many votes ignored. I agree with you the voters aren't too blame.
Complaining about the electoral college is a different argument altogether
This community is designed to argue the system should be changed not which fascist sucks slightly less.
People from world don't like that kind of thinking sadly
Liberals have no place here
Good. Just hope they don't start a crusade against this comm like they do against others :(
Ah yes. From world. I’ve heard of it.
Who’s disagreeing the system should be changed?
A valid argument
Indeed.
Every nation has the government it deserves. Individuals, on the other hand, good people — they always get fucked. There’s no escape from the mediocrity and subhumanity of the masses.
If republicans thought that way they wouldn’t have a Supreme Court majority.
I’ve been voting for decades. I rarely get to vote for a candidate I truly support. Most of the time I vote for the candidate that is closer to what I want than their opponent. It’s the unfortunate nature of the two-party system, but I never let my power to vote go unused.
Or crazy thought you can vote third party
You can, if you want to feel all warm and fuzzy inside about your ethical choice when Trump becomes President. No amount of posts or news will get a third-party candidate national majority in the next four months. Especially with so many people aware that Jill Stein is a Russian shill.
I made that mistake, along with many Americans in 2000, and protested Bush’s response to 9/11 as a result of Gore’s loss.
This is Democrat bullying, "vote for the candidates that we say to vote for or we'll let the Republicans destroy the country". If your only options are two different brands of bad, then democracy is already dead.
jill stein is not a russian shill, but the third way is a pentagon shill, so maybe don't link liberal war-hawking here.
this does not support the claim she is a Russian shill. if anything, it shows the Russians are Jill shills.
gore didn't lose because of the votes. the supreme court picked the winner.
Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. What more would you have us do? We're past the point of voting being the only thing you have to do to resist, and we're past the point of individuals being responsible for where we are. Levers are being pulled that the public and voters have no control over. If you're not in an organization that opposes fascism in some way, you're not doing enough.
If you voted for Hillary in 2016, my comment wasn’t referring to you.
The point is, Hillary won the popular vote. By a lot. That’s the only thing that should matter in a democracy. We’ve been robbed of our agency and self-determination. We’re past the point where voting alone can make a difference. They won. They finished their fascist foundation, they have shielded themselves from accountability and consequence, they have given themselves the power of fiat at almost every level. This was always their plan, and it’s time we seize back everything that was stolen from us.
Oh, I totally agree it’s all that should matter. If the Nation Popular Vote bill gets signed by 61 electoral vote states, then we’d actually have a direct democracy.
https://www.nationalpopularvote.com
Until then, land will continue to get a louder voice than people.
In 2016 Democrats ran a widely disliked neoliberal through a heavily biased primary and wonder why they lose.
She wasn’t disliked because she was a neoliberal, she was disliked because 1. Woman 2. Huge history of political baggage going back 30 years 3. 5 year long intensive republican smear campaign
She's generally dislikable. Calling anyone who doesn't like her a sexist is an example of the attitude that continues to help the Republicans win elections.
She was shady. She was manipulative. I saw it firsthand during the Iowa caucuses of 2016 when she sent out a guide on “how to run a caucus” with a bunch of stuff that was intentionally misleading to favor an establishment candidate.
You’re saying an establishment candidate sent out ‘how to run a caucus’ with suggestions that favored an establishment candidate?
Not suggestions, misinformation. Like it lied about how a caucus should be run, lied about what happens in a disagreement, lied about how delegates have to vote. Like someone in our precinct ended up calling the Iowa DNC to confirm that information that Clinton’s campaign provided was wrong.
Is there some article or copy of the handout or whatever about that? I don’t remember it.
It was much longer than 5 years. Fox News threw shit on her from day 1. And when she played a role in trying to implement single payer healthcare they turned it into a vendetta. More like 20 years.
Memes like these send a clear message:
Let's give republicans all the power, one cynically cherry-picked narrative at a time. Hold Democrats to a perfect standard while tying one hand behind their back, dismiss any such consideration for republicans. Give no context. Play the heroic martyr while doing nothing.
The Democrats are complicit. The Republicans are at least forthcoming with their goals. "We're going to burn this shit to the ground". Whereas the Democrats are like "vote for this corporatist candidate that nobody likes or we'll let the Republicans burn this shit to the ground".
It's clear that you didn't understand the meme nor do you understand this community. I'll make this clear, you cannot win in a rigged system. On top of that when the Democrats win we get jerks like Genocide Joe (btw any genocide sympathetic comments will be removed).
"BTW anyone who disagrees with me will be censored"
Great debate skills there, Hass.
any genocide sympathetic comments will be removed
As they should be. I completely disagree with Biden’s support of Israel. The unfortunate reality is that Trump wants to withdraw support from Ukraine and reverse the Forced Labor Protection Act for the Uyghurs as well as support Israel’s expansion into Gaza.
Even in areas where Biden is bad, Trump somehow manages to be worse.
Just the way the donor class wants it.
I almost looks like your "democrats" are not actually democrats...
It looks an awful lot like they want the same things as Republicans and are all playing an elaborate game of Good Cop/Bad Cop.
But if you vote Democrat you'll
- ~~get a good economy~~
- ~~get a president that isn't incompetent~~
- ~~get a president that will actively fight genocide~~
- ~~get a president that won't dump money into the military industrial complex~~
- ~~get a president that will fight back against fascism~~
- ~~get a president that won't sacrifice all of their values in the name of "bipartisanship"~~
- get a president who's name isn't Donald J Trump
That alone is enough to secure my vote for Biden, but it doesn't feel much like democracy.
It isn't, democracy is an illusion by the capitalists
Yeah, man. What it feels like is bullying. Take this thing you don't want or we'll let someone burn your house to the ground. Is basically an elaborate racketeering scheme.
This post attacks Democrats for not fighting back and makes voting feel hopeless or inadequate. The reality is you aren't elevating someone who is fighting back. Don't waste effort demoralizing voters, instead point at a message, person or action that you consider fighting back and push it, be the change you want to see. Otherwise this just amounts to voter suppression because every person that sees this and doesn't vote in November because they feel it is pointless is one less vote the fascists need to take power. The donor class, the media aren't going to do it for you because they are the ones that elevate Democrats that don't fight back.
Wanna go ahead and count how many people voted?