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Lefty Memes

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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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[–] njm1314 67 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For a democracy to remain healthy every now and then you got to round up all the fascist and hang them. It's like pruning.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The tree of liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

-Thomas Jefferson

[–] NegativeInf 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jefferson also thought the constitution should be rewritten every 20 years so that each generation would not live under the tyranny of the previous.

Which is pretty dope. And mildly terrifying.

[–] Sanctus 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It sounds like he just threw out his best idea for it. Not a bad thought but could you imagine what would be shoved in there nowadays?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

More interesting I think is what it would have been at other points in history and whether this type of renewal would have been able to prevent the current shitshow. 20y might be a bit short as well, something more like 40y could make sense though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

And rather than wipe it out and start, maybe adjust a percent of it.

However constitution law would be overridden more. The less stable, the less decided, current scotus aside.

[–] Zorque 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe if we focused a little less on corporal punishment and more on education, we'd have a hell of a lot less pruning to do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Both sound good. Let's just do both.