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Lack of sleep can lead to psychosis and other mental issues. Preventing people from sleeping in some manner is just inviting unintentional consequences. More muggings, stabbings, rapes, looting or something else?
People being homeless is a failure of society, not an individual.
Preventing people from sleeping in some manner is just inviting unintentional consequences.
I don't think the consequences are unintentional. Torturing a homeless person by continuously harassing them for trying to get sleep, then recording them lashing out at a city worker or police officer after they've snapped, produces a set of video content that can be spread across the internet and used as kindling to turn the housed public against the homeless.
In the same way Project Veritas existed to harass and extort voting rights activists and health care centers, these laws and the associated anti-homeless activist base are going to be used to justify mass round-ups, imprisonments, and police executions of homeless people.
This is real actual fascism in practice.
People being homeless is a failure of society, not an individual.
“If You Born Poor,It is not your mistake, but if you die poor,it is your mistake”
― Bill Gates Sr., Showing Up for Life: Thoughts on the Gifts of a Lifetime
Should be noted that Gates Jr was born into a family of millionaires, with a mother who sat on the First Interstate Bank of Washington's Board of Directors and a father who was a founding member of the law firm PGE. If you want to talk about individuals who might be responsible for homelessness, these two are a good place to start. They've been "philanthropists" for most of their adult lives and commanded billions of dollars in charitable donations. But the their tenure in these non-profits and committees have yielded rising poverty, declining standards of living, and enormous new personal debts.
The folks who have horded the lion's share of the national wealth firmly believe that they aren't responsible for the consequential inequity and bankruptcy that their greed has produced.
I think the lack of empathy and compassion for homeless people comes from the puritanical roots of America where failure in some aspect of life was related to moral or character failure.
So again, it’s important to point out that the fact some people fall through the cracks means there are deficiencies in the social fabric which disallow optimal self determination for all individuals in that society. No one dreams of growing up to be a homeless person as a child.
America is the one country in the world which has the resources to pull off market socialism correctly. But many progressive ideals are off the table because of rich or billionaire class.
We should stop hating each other and just hate on the rich for robbing us of a healthy and well functioning society
All recent stupid SC stuff is because of 6-3 votes. These old fucks are seated for life.
Alter their lifespan.
“When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” — Thomas Jefferson
When the government oversteps its authority and becomes tyrannical, then the governed have a responsibility to overthrow that government to reestablish the rights of the people to be free and only be governed by consent.
It should be illegal to be a billionaire while there are homeless people. Fuck the billionaire oligarchs!
What if you aren't homeless but still sleep outside as if you were homeless? Is that allowed? Imagining someone registering an address where homeless can state that they live (but without actually living there), to circumvent the law..
At the end of the day, do you think that'll matter to cops? They're gonna arrest people either way.
Can you solve the equation?
Homelessness becomes illegal + For-profit prison system that's allowed by law to force prisoners to work + increasing cost of rent + lower relative price of labor =
spoiler
Situation of dog eats dog, increasingly pauperized labor market where the poorest layer of the population gets enslaved, and the second poorest, and the third poorest, and the n-th poorest all will also fall one by one, because guess what? Free workers now have to compete in wages with prisoners.
That's the plan, fascism, everyone but the elite works the camps
They're gonna learn the hard way there's no such thing as free work when the ~~workers~~ slaves burn their factorys down.
We should make our rich and powerful worried about communism again.
Guillotine time!
where the fuck are they gonna sleep then? at home?
that's right american homeless people, the US supreme court has solved homelessness: "don't sleep outside, just buy a house!" /s
Why even worry about it when you can just bus them to California?
The court has gone rogue.
So whats the punishment a fine? Prison time where u use tax payer money to give them a bed and food?
The purpose is to push people into the for-profit prison system, which rakes in billions in slave labor.
In the city where I grew up in Canada, it was illegal to sleep on the streets. The punishment was a single night in a holding cell with no record.
This way, on cold nights, police would forcibly give people a warm meal and a place to sleep - there was a real danger of those folks freezing. The system worked most of the time, but if course, it really inconvenienced the purple who just want to be left alone.
What the actual fuck.
No it doesn’t work like that.
Sleeping outside while homeless I am sure isn’t a deliberate choice. Homeless people aren’t magic. They can’t conjure a building to sleep in from thin air. Making it illegal doesn’t give tgem magic building making powers or like teleportation or whatever these delusional idiots think it does.
It doesn’t give them magic building powers, but it fills up for-profit prisons!
Cities banning homeless people from sleeping outside while failing to give them any alternative is bad, but I think the constitutional prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment is a poor protection against that. This is the sort of thing we need actual laws passed to deal with.
But it is actually cruel to create a system that deprives people of sleep, which is something they need, and sleep deprivation has been used as a form of torture.
Poverty is illegal. We are all poor.
Let's criminalize being a cop.
It’s really sad that a man, a born citizen, may not have the right to sleep on the literal fucking ground when he has nowhere else to go. These rich people decide he’s a criminal.
So sleeping outside is now as legal as breaking into someone's home to sleep? But if you break in you might get to sleep in jail away from the elements? What coukd go wrong.
Guess they gotta stay up like Freddy Krueger is chasing them....
