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What could Apple force app developers to do that would improve your iOS / macOS experience? (self.apple_enthusiast)
submitted 5 days ago by lemmingnosis to c/apple_enthusiast
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Mine: require setting a URL to support password managers. You download an app, go to login, tap the password field, and open Bitwarden. Does it find your login? Half the time, nope! The dev didn’t tell Apple one time what their URL is, so everyone now has to search their password manager every time.

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[–] catalyst 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Since the question is specifically about what Apple could make developers do, I’ll say this: enforce the App Store guideline rule about not using push notifications for advertising.

I very rarely enable push notifications on apps anymore because so many use them for spammy advertisements. This makes apps less useful than they could be if notifications were used responsibly.

[–] fer0n 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If I remember correctly they’ve since removed that rule

[–] catalyst 2 points 3 days ago

It’s still there, although there’s a loophole of course.

4.5.4:

Push Notifications should not be used for promotions or direct marketing purposes unless customers have explicitly opted in to receive them via consent language displayed in your app’s UI, and you provide a method in your app for a user to opt out from receiving such messages.

The “explicit opt-in” could easily be language hidden in a massive ToS that nobody reads. So I guess I wish Apple would do away with that entirely and start enforcing it.

[–] lemmingnosis 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hope they require a separate toggle for promotional notifications.

[–] fer0n 2 points 3 days ago

In an ideal world, Apple intelligence will take care of this. But it’ll probably just highlight more important notifications while everything else is still there a swipe away.

[–] fer0n 5 points 3 days ago

Force them (including myself) to implement dark mode, and soon dark app icons.

[–] AA5B 4 points 3 days ago

Be less clever with payment information, including billing address. I suppose that was helpful in the Olden days but now that Apple Wallet can autofill, get out of the way.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Force iOS / iPadOS devs to make their apps available on macOS. It’s pretty cool that you can run iPadOS apps natively on macOS but most devs simply don’t allow it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Problem is that requires carefully testing, and not every company wants to have a half-assed port that doesn’t have a good experience on the desktop.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

iirc there was a short time where the apps were published by default once the compatibility layer was in place. i definitely used the feature to make my app work across the whole product line, but there were a couple of things that were broken on macos that i had to put in fixes or workarounds. that might explain why more developers haven't released their ios apps on mac.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago

Apple is the one holding back the user experience on their operating systems, not third party developers.

[–] dinckelman 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thirdparty developers literally carried the Apple experience to where it is now. The ones stopping Apple from being better are Apple themselves

[–] lemmingnosis 1 points 3 days ago

I didn’t realize how ungrateful this post sounded until you pointed it out. Wish I would’ve rephrased it at the least. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

On android the app ID is used for password matching, does apple really not do the same thing? That would be maddening!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I know 1Password can detect the app ID and use that as a match criteria. The problem is that it is not user intuitive to get the app ID to key into password manager; also doesn’t change the fact that the app most of the time just front end to some website, which already has an entry for the website, and shouldn’t require the user to go out of their way to find App ID to work around the dev’s inability to surfacing basic metadata about their service.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bitwarden and other password managers get the app Id automatically on Android and can have multiple apps/websites associated to a password, you only need to search once and tap "auto fill and save"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Apple community, we don’t care about android; sorry but not sorry. And yes, it is possible, I don’t think anyone is arguing that. The discussion is more what should happen in “the Apple way” where things just work — and that’s something Apple can mandate on app developers… something that might be pretty foreign and alien to the android crowd.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Our point was that it doesn't need to involve app developers at all, it should just be handled by the OS automatically.

It doesn't hurt to look over the fence and see what works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Being aware of something outside of your own ass, something pretty foreign and alien to an apple fanboy like you.

It's people like you who made it possible for Mac os to not have proper snapping until 2024.

[–] lemmingnosis 1 points 3 days ago

So maybe I can just tap the + in Bitwarden from an app and it might save the ID…

Thought I’d tried that but can’t remember! Will test, thanks.

[–] joneskind 0 points 4 days ago

Apple could start by stopping taking Europeans for fools and claiming that the DMA prevents them from publishing Apple Intelligence in Europe.

I’ve been an happy Apple exclusive customer since 2008. But if they play it that way I won’t follow. I give them one year to put their shit together. After that I’m done with the brand.

Long live Europe