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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

odds are this will suck. anyone have hope?

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 9 points 6 months ago

No, but you have to admire their tenacity. “Maybe THIS time…”

[–] MimicJar 4 points 6 months ago

Great cast. Writer seems capable. Director looks a little new when it comes to films, but solid foundation. We know Marvel is doing a soft reset when it comes to films/TV to give them the time we need.

The early 2000 films were good, admittedly they are a product of their time and a little overly camp, but that was the style at the time.

The later film was actually an ok film for he first 2/3rd and only after that, the ending, did it turn to shit.

I have no reason to expect this film will be bad. Worst case is it will be whelming, but I expect a pretty solid film.

[–] jordanlund 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Marvel hasn't had a miss with their top tier properties so far so it seems likely to be good.

The only film to really stink up the place was Eternals but I don't know anyone who actually cared about that property to begin with.

A lot of people ragged on Marvels but it was just... fine. "Mostly harmless." Some of the VFX were trash, but not awful.

[–] Omegamanthethird 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thor 4?

Ant-Man 3, if you count that. I wouldn't call it a tip tier property. But they were clearly trying to use it as a launching point for the next phase.

[–] jordanlund 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thor 4 suffered from too much Taika Waititi, but considering he resurrected the franchise with Thor 3, I can see why they gave him free reign.

Ant-Man 3 wasn't awful, I'm not sure where the hate comes from. My only real beef with it was that it didn't have another scene stealing recap of events from Luis.

Marvel's problem there is they kind of painted themselves into a corner with Kang, and that's a shame because Jonathan Majors is legitimately a strong actor, he was great in Lovecraft Country and Loki Season 2.

[–] Omegamanthethird 5 points 6 months ago

My problem with Ant Man 3 was everything wrong with The Marvels but much worse. Individual scenes were fine, but they felt disconnected either plot wise, thematically, or emotionally. Kang felt incompetent, regardless of the plot reasons why he was underpowered. And they could have done just about anything else with MODOK and it would have been better.

Jonathan Majors stole every scene he was in. It felt like it was him vs the writing.

[–] Moneo 3 points 6 months ago

Coincidentally I just watched the RLM review of the previous F4 attempt. A large portion of the discussion was about how F4 is just a weird IP to try and depict on the screen. Looking forward to their review of this next attempt.