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Reddit nukes everyone’s pre-2023 chats and messages::Shooting itself in the foot again

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Spez get in trouble for sending unsolicited dick pics and needs to drop some tables again?

[–] Cruxifux 4 points 1 year ago

I thought this meant it nuked all their posts and I was like “is this how a social media commits literal suicide”

But whatever this is funny and stupid too.

[–] Jackthelad 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just don't understand what the top brass at Reddit are hoping to achieve with these changes.

I mean, they're universally hated. What's the goal here?

[–] TheSpookiestUser 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They aren't universally hated. No one likes them, sure, but as with a lot of things the silent majority is in the "doesn't give a fuck" camp. This is the camp Reddit is relying on to keep using the website no matter what they do.

Now as for why, beats me.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

My guess is that spez and co are hoping they've hit a critical mass of FB level users (your mum, your boss, that wacky aunt, the bus driver, etc) that after they fucked everything and the exodus happens, there will be enough people around who dont care cos "lol cats funny".

[–] TwilightVulpine 2 points 1 year ago

Only lurkers would be indifferent to losing all their messages. I guess they are likely more numerous but Reddit needs active users to keep functioning.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Hatred of the universal level is the tippy top as far as I know. Maybe it's a personal bet or, even better, a dare? You can't back down from a dare!

[–] everythingsucks 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There’s nothing about it on the top two pages of Reddit so either people don’t care or let’s get out our tinfoil hats and make this make sense.

[–] BrudderAaron 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tinfoil hat is ON. Spez and Loyalist are squashing any and all criticism that appears on r/All.

[–] 4am 8 points 1 year ago

It’s the reason for everything happening on Reddit and Twitter.

[–] GONADS125 40 points 1 year ago

Private messaging after a post on a local subreddit is how I met my now wife, back in college. Would go back and look at our awkward exchanges from 10 years ago occasionally.

Glad I screenshotted them years ago, now that they're off reddit. Figured that would happen eventually.

[–] AzPsycho 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I bet this has to do with complying with court orders. Can't turn over something you don't have.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That would imply they are acting in good faith to protect their users. There must be another explanation because that one doesn't sound likely. 😆

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken, Reddit plans to develop a new chat system, sort of. I remember back when I still use reddit in new reddit, there was a new chat with all my old chats put in some sort of legacy chat categories.

Maybe that legacy chat is what they're planning to nuke? Even then I think it's stupid. I can't even see the difference between the new and old chat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

they've been working on it for ages and funnily enough its based off the matrix.org protocol :P so not really making it fully from scratch, well it seems they've made their own software for it

[–] AzPsycho 4 points 1 year ago

It does when your employees are also some of the end users.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol, there was a chat feature??

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It's where you would get spammed by the odd person. Terrible feature.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It was never added to API.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is awesome news to privacy focused people. I don’t want this shit stored anywhere ever. I couldn’t be happier. And with that done, I will finally delete my 10 year old account.

[–] mriguy 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They’ve made them unavailable to you, but if you think they’ve actually deleted them, you’re dreaming. Now you can’t delete them, but presumably they’ll sell them for as much as they can get. Spez was pretty clear that aggressive mometization of existing content was his business plan, and this is undoubtedly part of that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good point. It’s more likely that they changed their underlying storage infrastructure/access and don’t want to deal with data migrations. Data migrations are very expensive and non-value add.

So, yeah, probably some messed up data processing still going on behind the scenes and now you CAN’T delete them because you cannot access them. I could even see that last bit being the entire point. They’ve removed easy access to delete any messages along with any reminder of what exists that Reddit has. Oh god damn it it’s probably both of these things. Much easier to run data processing on something people don’t try to access often.

[–] ZapBeebz_ 3 points 1 year ago

They better get slapped around with some GDPR requests then, because then they'll have to prove they deleted those logs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Figured it would be too good to be true. I really already knew this but was in denial

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People are so fucking dumb that they will still be using reddit. The value is in the content they generate which people do not understand. With all the changes r/spez made , anyone with some brain would leave the platform and let the website crash and burn but people are so dumb that they will make r/spez a billionaire and then complain about it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

And the clown music gets louder and louder.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Did people actually use the chat feature in Reddit?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the constant spam messages I got say yes. By spammers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The few times I looked that all I ever saw was spam.

[–] TwilightVulpine 3 points 1 year ago

I used it once for that Circle of Trust april fools thing, then never again.

[–] Jarix 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't seem to be supported in 3rd party app (sync pro anyways) or i probably would have at some point. Probably a lesson there for the fediverse. If a feature exists and you want people to use it, don't make it invisible(or so bad it should be invisible)

For developers a list of features that people aren't using should probably be posted and also with a quick gif of it in action so those not technically inclined can recognize them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Chat was specifically a feature that wasn't exposed via the public API. You had to use the "new" website or the official app.

[–] Matriks404 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am sick of reddit, I have just deleted my account(s).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I haven't because unfortunately some content is still there and some communities haven't left, but the rest of the time is Lemmy. That and I don't think I am capable of actually deleting it there is too much stuff there that although I have backed up I would feel bad that would dissapear by my own hand.

[–] Asashin420 2 points 1 year ago

lucky for me that completely banned me. everytime i tried to create a new account, they shadow banned me. So now its not as exciting as it was before and now after their latest changes, I dont even care anymore

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

oh.. ok. There was something in there that I wasn't eager to lose. The reasons to keep my reddit account dwindle daily, it seems.

[–] baked_tea 7 points 1 year ago

Ok they consisted 99% of scams

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And nothing of value was lost.

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