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I've watched the keynote and read some stuff on the internet and I've found this video about a dude talking about the new update (I linked it here because if you didn't see the keynote, this is probably enough)

Is it just me, or... does no one address that Apple does a Microsoft move by basically scanning everything on every machine and feeding this into their LLM?

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[–] iAvicenna 2 points 7 months ago

because its target audience thinks it is a feature?

[–] HurlingDurling 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

..because that would just affect apple users, and not me. I don't chose to use windows, I am forced, so I hate when they take away my choice of keeping it out of my stuff

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

So I’m curious . . . what reference am I missing that helps me understand what menu settings cause exactly which pieces of personal data to be shared with which Apple services? I want to RTFM, and while I appreciate people wanting to be helpful, comment replies are not themselves documentation.

(I switched from Android to ios in 2020 and haven’t really figured out details beyond turning icloud sync off for specific apps. I’d like to add more devices and learn to trust that sync method but I don’t understand where crypto is used and how the keys are handled.)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Apple has its llm's running locally. Thats a huge win I hope that sets a standard i really hope someone make an android app thats foss that can do something simmillar.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a very simple answer Apple has guaranteed that your data will stay on your device and stay secure. This is generally trusted because Apple has a track record of keeping user data secure on the device or encrypted in the cloud even in ways Apple cannot access. Point is, when Apple says they are going to do this in a way that respects privacy, and they outline the technical details of how it will work, people trust that because there's a track record.

Microsoft has no such trust. They have a recent track record of being intrusive and using dark patterns to persuade users to give Microsoft their data, for example in Edge there have been new feature pop-ups that require data sharing with Microsoft and the two options are 'got it' and 'settings' so accepting requires one click and rejecting requires 4 going into the settings menu and changing a few things. Microsoft is also heavily pushing Copilot which is mostly cloud-based. Furthermore, Microsoft recently showed a system that would basically screenshot your computer at very regular intervals and store them in an insecure manner. Granted it was on the device, but the way they were going to be stored meant they could be stolen with two lines of code. And let's not forget that Windows 11 cannot be set up without a Microsoft account, so to even use your computer you have to share your email address with Microsoft. In this and many other ways they just do not act like a company that respects privacy at all, they act like the typical big tech give us everything or we will make your life difficult type company that nobody trusts.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 7 months ago
  • usually people got Microsoft license for free (by working in company, and company buy you enterprise license)
  • But with apple, people usually get it by passion.
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