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How to make android more Private? (self.android)

submitted 1 year ago by gimlithepirate to c/android

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What are everyone's recommendations on making android more private? Given Google's recent behavior around tracking and the like, I'm not really comfortable with then having all of my data. I've even contemplated going to iOS, since apple doesn't have a vested interest in me having less privacy... But I just don't like their OS lol.

I've tried GrapheneOS, and it's not awful. For usability, I did have to add Google apps back in, but at least they are sandboxes.

For the moment though, my daily driver is a Samsung S21. What can I do to make I more private?

So far, I have:

Switched to Samsung browser with adblock.
Started using duckduck go.
Installed duckduck go's app tracking protection. That was an eye opener.
Restricted location history in Google maps.

What else? I know Graphene is typically the gold standard, but I'm trying to see what I can do short of that.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Disable play services, install fdroid, install aurora store from fdroid to keep your play store apps up to date switch to ProtonMail or Tutanota, install and use newpipe from fdroid

[–] Discoslugs 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These are great recommendations.

I would add mullvad VPN and biwarden password manager.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I use ProtonVPN and KeepassDX but those are both good suggestions

[–] Pillarist 2 points 1 year ago

Get GrapheneOS back and do this. Win.

[–] aragon 10 points 1 year ago

Firefox on Android supports ublock and noscript as well as other privacy extension. I cannot recommend it enough. Also use newpipe for YouTube. For any apps, see if you have an equivalent in f-droid and use it instead of the one from playstore.

[–] 3migo 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would use Firefox Mobile over the Samsung browser. Samsung is still chromium based and Firefox puts more priority on user privacy.

If you can switch messaging and group chats to Signal or Telegram, that'd be a good move as well.

Otherwise App Tracking Protection is probably the best thing you can do for privacy.

[–] gimlithepirate 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Went to signal awhile ago, mainly because it's secure and cross platform.

[–] kira 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Signal is bad for privacy. You need to enter your phone number and it has centralized server
I use Matrix. It requires only email and is decentralized

[–] _MoveSwiftly 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure if this makes it "private" but here is what I use:

Firefox with extensions.
Proton VPN, Calendar, Drive, Mail.
Bitwarden password manager.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly what I use. Lately I've been testing the Kiwi Next browser as well.

[+] nodsocket 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] gimlithepirate 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm not trying to go full paranoia on this.

The main thing I'm worried about is Google's response to geolocation based subpoenas. That combined with the US political environment is concerning.

The second thing is the stupid advertiser tracking. That's just not cool.

[–] Discoslugs 3 points 1 year ago

Check out calyxOS.

It's more user friendly than graphene. It does this by sacrificing some privacy and security but it's still pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Please have a look: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/ and special https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/

[–] Transcendant 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The DDG tracking protection is unreal, I keep recommending it to people but I don't think they realise quite how much they're being tracked or they'd be jumping on it. It was insane for me to see hundreds of thousands of tracking requests denied each week. What's not to love, it's free, and stops tracking.

I've had a Pixel 7a for about a month now and loving it, alongside DuckDuckGo app tracking blocker. I was already using that on my tired ole' S9, would never have considered a google phone without that installed alongside.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is a good post on Lemmy about Hardening privacy on android https://lemmy.ml/post/54596

[–] gimlithepirate 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this a shit post, or the wrong link?

[+] [email protected] -11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m curious what you don’t like about iOS. I started out on Android, switched to iOS and never looked back. I realized I was doing most customization in Android to feel like iOS lol. the privacy upgrade is priceless imo.

[–] _MoveSwiftly 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

iOS is not private, it's secure.

Private: Only you can see it, the servicing company does not. In the case, Apple not only sees your data but sells it too.

Secure: The data is protected from unwanted access by 3rd party vendors.

These are rough definitions though.

[–] gimlithepirate 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this is what concerns me.

Stock Android is neither. So for the average user, Apple iOS is probably better.

I'm on lemmy so I'm probably not the average user lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes sense. In that case, I guess I’d still take iOS since it’s secure, while stock Android is neither private nor secure. You make an important distinction though.

[–] _MoveSwiftly 1 points 1 year ago

Depends on your usage.

I use Android, because I can make it secure and I can guarantee privacy in certain areas.

iOS is better for the masses though, and I do think they put a significant effort to ensure security. Especially on an OS level.

Thanks for the feedback. :)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Privacy now that Apple owns your data instead of Google. Apple is always calling back home , they ask for so much private information when you create an account , they control your app store and what apps you are allow to have. Even on the lockdown mode which was supposed to be the most secure it still contact apple servers and when using a VPN not all traffic pass through the tunnel , because Apple dont allow you. If you really want privacy buy a device that you own , and can control. Your privacy and security is on your hands not in a big corporation.

[–] gimlithepirate 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pure personal preference. I've traditionally gone back and forth almost every time I get a new phone. It's really only in the last 2-3 years I've hit the point I significantly prefer android.

For me, some of the interface choices on iOS are no Bueno. Additionally, the lack of a button, or simulated button is not something I'm fond of.

I'm also not convinced they are more private. I think Apple's incentives line up more with mine than Google's, but only barely. Independent researchers are pretty mixed on whether Apple is actually blocking all apps, or just making it so Apple is the only one who can profit off of people's data.

The only reason I think they are probably more private is the giant hissy fit Facebook threw over their settings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the answer! Makes sense to me. Yeah, the Facebook reaction to that settings change made me think they’re actually doing something to prevent at least third party apps from accessing user data. And the whole thing about refusing to build a back door into iOS for the FBI.