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I assume it would break into smaller particles similar to the formation of microplastics. I hear about the effects of microplastics all the time. Are the effects of disposed rubber on the environment studied as extensively?

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[–] themeatbridge 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Natural rubber (latex) is biodegradable, but that doesn't mean it isn't bad for the environment. The production and disposal of natural latex causes all sorts of problems unrelated to microplastics.

Synthetic rubber is chemically distinct from plastic, but still breaks down into microplastics.

Natural rubber tires are vulcanized, which makes the rubber more resilient, but also more damaging to the environment.

[–] Chocrates 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well damn that is depressing. Humans are real shit about our garbage.

[–] themeatbridge 2 points 3 months ago

What's crazy is that we could do soooo much better, but it would mean rich people would make less money. Not no money, just less of it.

Nothing needs to be made of plastic. It's cheap and convenient, which just means "profitable." If we didn't use plastics, we'd use something else and it would be less profitable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's part of the problem, but I don't think we've studied individual contributors as much as looked at the big picture. There was a study on plastics in general that has some citations of the statistics it gathers, and I ran across it in looking up specifically the rubber from tires, aka tire dust from wear and tear (which all vehicles have to some degree, even EVs, and is often a part of the argument of less cars rather than different cars). So about 1 millions tons of the annual contribution to plastics in the ocean is due to tire dust in runoff waters. Also keep in mind that like many large studies that take a while to put together, I think a lot of these statistics are old (around 2016). It's probably worse now.

[–] khepri 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't know about the disposal of rubber, but the production of rubber has historically enslaved and destroyed entire populations and environmentally wrecked whole regions of the earth in Africa and South America...

[–] Paragone 0 points 3 months ago

Dust from tires.

There was an air-quality researcher who tried getting samples in Toronto, of pollen.

He couldn't find the pollen.

Only tires-particles.

The significance of the changes in tires, since the 1970's, is astonishing.

What tires can do, nowadays, .. outright unbelievable, compared with way back when.

Look at how far over modern bicycle-racers can lean, compared with images of the old races, when their tires hadn't anywhere near the grip they've got now..

but they're still being poured into the atmosphere at stunning rate..

All the wear of your tires, as the tread gets thinner, its going into the ecology, either the air or the waters or the land around the roads,

& then you've got the oceans-of-used-tires which often can't be recycled, or cost too much to be recycled..

There has been extensive study on this stuff, btw, dig a bit & you'll find some in-depth stuff!